Your favourite 4 ECM albums?


(Alex Landrum) #41

Hello Fernando

I take your point and I’m a supporter of artists being paid for their creative copyright, 100%

I suppose the alternatives I was thinking of are labels, like Hyperion Records in the UK and BIS in Sweden. Like ECM both these labels support their artists ambitious recording projects and they both produce excellent engineered recordings. I know they are classical music sites but the idiom is not the point here.

Although each of these labels does not publish their recent catalogues through streaming services like Tidal & Qobuz, they do have their own download sites that sell their Hi-Res content at reasonable prices and you can also buy tracks separately rather than having to buy the whole album. What’s more, BIS will give a discount - Hi-res for the price of CD quality - if you buy it soon after release.

I’ve spent a great deal more money through these sites because of these incentives. That’s what I had in mind when thinking about ECM’s marketing policy. I would buy a lot more from ECM if they had more flexibility in how they sell their catalogue.

Why isn’t there an ECM download site for instance? Their back catalogue of excellent recordings is huge.


(Fernando Pereira) #42

Not sure why there’s no ECM download site, but in general I don’t see a reason for a label to have their own distribution site rather than using an existing high-traffic online distributor like HDtracks (US) or HighResAudio (Germany). ECM’s prices on HighResAudio (for me here in the US) are a bit stiff, $20 for an 88.2 or 96 album, but that’s ECM’s pricing choice because other jazz labels like Intakt or ACT charge less. ECM prices on HDtracks vary, and they have lots of promotions, but HDtracks often lacks behind on bringing out releases for whatever reason, while HighResAudio brings them out right away. I don’t like having to deal the label-created idiocy that some albums are not available from HighResAudio (which is German) for me in the US, and only (if they are) from HDtracks (which is US-based) for so-called “territorial constraints.”


(Rene Bouwmeester) #43

Qobuz is fine, I think: €14 for Redbook, €20 for Highres.


(Fernando Pereira) #44

Unfortunately it does not work for the US. Just created an account and tried to buy a few albums, got “Les produits suivants ne sont malheureusement pas disponibles à la vente dans votre pays.” The territorial restrictions that labels impose on online distributors are really infuriating. I want to give them good money for music and they won’t let me!


(David Orgel) #45

I’ve heard there are some ways to sign up for Qobuz from the US that involve making it seem like you’re in a “Qobuz country” when you sign up. You might want to ask around.

Completely unrelated to anything, you might want to check out this extension for the Chrome web browser.


(Fernando Pereira) #46

Thanks, I’ve known about those “workarounds,” but I’d rather rely on legit means.


(David Orgel) #47

I wrestled with this for a while, but since one is trying to purchase downloads that can’t be otherwise purchased, it’s hard to see what the issue is, from the standpoint of the label or, most important to me, the artist.


#48

This is so difficult that it’s almost an impossible task. However @RBM is right: a new month, a new Top Four! :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:

The trouble of responding late (been very busy) is that I’ve seen so many personal favorites come by, that I find it hard to come up with a new list. Anouar Brahem’s “Le Pas du Chat Noir” and June Tabor’s “Quercus” are two of my absolute all time favorites, but have been mentioned more than once if I’m correct. So I will try and add something new. Here we go:

Actually, this specific recording of Meredith Monk was one of the recordings expanding my musical horizon way beyond the rabbit hole, when I was a student (with Scott Walker’s “Tilt” and Hedningarna’s “Trå”).


#49

I love the sound story of the artists who’ve developed their sound over the years on ECM, much the way The Beatles evolved from I Wanna Hold Your Hand to Let It Be.

Garbarek’s maturing voice on I Took Up the Runes (no pun intended) is really quite amazing to me. Sort of a parallel to Coltrane’s evolution. Probably no accident since Garbarek was highly influenced by Coltrane.

This recording blew me away and made me realize that ECM is simply one man’s taste in music… but, wow, does Manfred Eicher have incredible taste. It really shows that the popularity-based algorithms of search miss out on a significant dimension of human experience. When Napster came out in the early 2000s I remember specifically searching it for ECM recordings. I found one. 70,000,000 users and 1 ECM record.

No, it wasn’t this one. The Stephan Micus musical story is chronicled on ECM, too, his whole idea of music as some sort of intelligence. When I listen to his music it seems like listening to whales who are deep and hidden away in the depth of the sea.

Mededith Monk’s Facing North, my favorite of her discography.

First Metheny record I ever heard and probably because of that is my favorite.


#50

I see I’m not the only Metheny inspired ECM person here :slight_smile:


(Michael Bush) #51

Wow - 4 favorites…here’s my list of the moment:

Keith Jarrett - Sun Bear Concerts (especially Kyoto)
Pat Metheny - Bright Size Life
Garbarek/Danielsson/Christensen/Jarrett - Sleeper
Pat Metheny Group - Pat Metheny Group


(Greg Hill) #52

This thread reminds me of how much music i’ve loved from ECM. And how I’ve failed to keep up with them. Must listen harder…


(Pete) #53

My favourite ECM albums are:


(Fernando Pereira) #54

+1 for Brahem and Schiff.


#55

Besides albums by artists already mentioned here as Anouar Brahem:

Jan Garbarek Group - Twelve Moons
Ralph Towner - Solstice
Bobo Stenson Trio - War Orphans
Masabumi Kikushi Trio - Sunrise


(Dan Schwartz) #56

This thread is a great reminder of how much good music is out there if there’s a good mind behind the label.

For my four, I’d have to go with pretty early ECM:

Keith Jarrett - Solo-Concerts
Ralph Towner - Diary
Eberhard Weber - The Colours of Chloe
Jon Hassell - Power Spot


(Pete) #57

Qobuz are doing a sale on some ECM albums, thought someone might be interested:


#58

Thanks for the tip!


(David Orgel) #60

Thanks for the link. Happy to see some old ones in there that haven’t been available for download until recently.


#61

Tough to name just 4. These are not my top 4 if everything else is also available. But these would be the 4 I’d take to a desert island.

Stephan Micus - The Music of Stones
Jan Garbarek - Ragas and Sagas
Paul Hillier - Proensa
Mikhail Alperin, Arkady Shilkloper - Wave Of Sorrow