16bit showing as 24bit [Solved]

I have MANY albums that Roon is listing as being 24bit/44.1kHz, where the albums are on fact 16bit/44.1kHz CD rips.

When I double check the files in iTunes or Audirvana etc, they show correctly as 16bit/44.1kHz, so I am not sure why this error is occurring.

The only CD’s I have showing as 24 bit are HDCD’s. I use dbpoweramp for all my rips and there are several threads on their forum, but also at computeraudiophile as to why this is the preferred outcome with HDCD’s.

If the CD’s in question are not HDCD’s maybe re-rip one and make sure all settings are correct. In most rippers you can set bit depth etc…, maybe something went wrong with a particular batch.

… and in case I am just rambling and all of the above does not apply, maybe roon has more insight.

Maybe give one or two examples of the albums in question. In case another roonie has them as well in their collection ripped from CD to check what the bitdepth is in their library.

Focus on 24/44.1. Select all.
Run the XL list and post it up here.
Let’s take a look.

What do you mean by run the XL list? Export an EXCEL spread sheet? How?

It gets more intriguing…I just double checked the files in both iTunes and Audirvana again, and they all show as 24bit/44.1kHz now. But, if I open a file in my audio editor (DSP-Quattro) the files are 16bit/44.1kHz! What the?

After focusing on the relevant albums you can select all (Ctrl-a, shift click or top left menu after initial long click selection on a tablet) and export to an Excel spreadsheet using the + menu next to the top “Play” button.

When you look at the files in a tag editor, how is the %bitdepth% tag set ?

Here is a sample of the XL data, the site will not allow me to paste the entire contents as it is too large:

Brian Eno Lux Main 4 1 1 4519 20121113 Ambient, Electronic, Ambient, Avant-Garde, Structured Improvisation, Experimental, Experimental Ambient, Experimental Electronic, Pop/Rock Large rovi:MW0002429739 no no ALAC 44.1kHz 24bit 2ch
Brian Eno / Jon Hopkins / Leo Abrahams Small Craft on a Milk Sea Main 15 1 1 2911 20101102 Ambient, Electronic, Ambient, Experimental Ambient, Avant-Garde, Experimental, Experimental Electronic Large rovi:MW0002041188 no no ALAC 44.1kHz 24bit 2ch
Bruce Hornsby Soundboard - Vienna VA 29/7/2002 Main 15 3 3 9157 20020000 Rock Medium no no ALAC 44.1kHz 24bit 2ch
Bruce Hornsby Intersections 1985-2005 1985-2005 Main 53 4 4 18067 20060725 Rock, Contemporary Pop/Rock, Pop/Rock, Heartland Rock, Adult Alternative Pop/Rock, Adult Contemporary, Alternative/Indie Rock Large rovi:MW0000570755 no no ALAC 44.1kHz 24bit 2ch
Bruce Hornsby / Bruce Hornsby & The Range A Night on the Town Main 11 1 1 3305 19900700 Rock, Adult Contemporary, Soft Rock, Adult Alternative Pop/Rock, Pop/Rock, Heartland Rock, Contemporary Pop/Rock, Alternative/Indie Rock Large rovi:MW0000203896 no no ALAC 44.1kHz 24bit 2ch
Bruce Springsteen The Wild, the Innocent, and the E Street Shuffle Main 7 1 1 2805 19730911 Rock, Pop/Rock, Contemporary Pop/Rock, Rock & Roll, Album Rock Large rovi:MW0000195809 no no ALAC 44.1kHz 24bit 2ch
Bruce Springsteen The River Main 20 2 2 5017 19801010 Rock, Contemporary Pop/Rock, Rock & Roll, Album Rock, Pop/Rock, Heartland Rock Large rovi:MW0000191949 no no ALAC 44.1kHz 24bit 2ch
Bruce Springsteen Tunnel of Love 24/44.1 Main 12 1 1 2780 19871009 Rock, Rock & Roll, Contemporary Pop/Rock, Pop/Rock, Heartland Rock, Album Rock Large rovi:MW0000193300 no no ALAC 44.1kHz 24bit 2ch
Bruce Springsteen Human Touch Main 14 1 1 3522 19920331 Rock, Rock & Roll, Contemporary Pop/Rock, Album Rock, Pop/Rock, Heartland Rock Large rovi:MW0000265071 no no ALAC 44.1kHz 24bit 2ch
Bruce Springsteen Lucky Town Main 10 1 1 2375 19920331 Rock, Pop/Rock, Heartland Rock, Contemporary Pop/Rock, Album Rock, Rock & Roll Large rovi:MW0000275900 no no ALAC 44.1kHz 24bit 2ch
Bruce Springsteen The Promise Main 21 2 2 5314 20101116 Rock, Pop/Rock, Heartland Rock, Album Rock, Contemporary Pop/Rock, Singer/Songwriter, Rock & Roll Large rovi:MW0002043949 no no ALAC 44.1kHz 24bit 2ch
Bryan Ferry Boys and Girls Main 9 1 1 2302 19850500 Rock, Contemporary Pop/Rock, Album Rock, Pop/Rock Large rovi:MW0000189992 no no ALAC 44.1kHz 24bit 2ch
Carly Simon Reflections: Carly Simon’s Greatest Hits Main 20 1 1 4763 20040504 Rock, Contemporary Pop/Rock, Singer/Songwriter, Soft Rock, Pop/Rock, Adult Contemporary Large rovi:MW0000697599 no no ALAC 44.1kHz 24bit 2ch
Celine Dion Loved Me Back to Life 24/44.1 Main 13 1 1 3093 20131105 Pop, Pop/Rock, Adult Contemporary, Contemporary Pop/Rock Large rovi:MW0002580809 no no ALAC 44.1kHz 24bit 2ch
Chicago The Very Best of Chicago: Only the Beginning Main 39 2 2 9445 20020702 Rock, AM Pop, Soft Rock, Jazz-Rock, Pop/Rock, Adult Contemporary, Contemporary Pop/Rock Large rovi:MW0000660637 no no ALAC 44.1kHz 24bit 2ch
Cold Chisel Cold Chisel Main 8 1 1 2167 19780000 Rock, Hard Rock, Pop/Rock, Aussie Rock Large rovi:MW0000335785 yes yes ALAC 44.1kHz 24bit 2ch
Cold Chisel Cold Chisel Enhanced Remaster Main 12 1 1 3139 19780000 Rock, Hard Rock, Pop/Rock, Aussie Rock Large rovi:MW0000335785 no no ALAC 44.1kHz 24bit 2ch
Cold Chisel Breakfast at Sweethearts Enhanced Remaster Main 13 1 1 2903 19790000 Rock, Pop/Rock, Hard Rock, Aussie Rock Large rovi:MW0000335784 no no ALAC 44.1kHz 24bit 2ch
Cold Chisel East Enhanced Remaster Main 15 1 1 3140 19800000 Rock, Aussie Rock, Pop/Rock, Hard Rock Large rovi:MW0000461457 no no ALAC 44.1kHz 24bit 2ch
Cold Chisel Circus Animals Main 10 1 1 2649 19820000 Rock, Hard Rock, Pop/Rock, Aussie Rock Large rovi:MW0000343564 yes yes ALAC 44.1kHz 24bit 2ch
Cold Chisel Circus Animals Enhanced Remaster Main 13 1 1 3274 19820000 Rock, Hard Rock, Pop/Rock, Aussie Rock Large rovi:MW0000343564 no no ALAC 44.1kHz 24bit 2ch
Cold Chisel Twentieth Century Main 13 1 1 2572 19840000 Rock, Pop/Rock, Hard Rock, Aussie Rock Large rovi:MW0000741271 no no ALAC 44.1kHz 24bit 2ch
Cold Chisel Twentieth Century Enhanced Remaster Main 16 1 1 3316 19840000 Rock, Pop/Rock, Hard Rock, Aussie Rock Large rovi:MW0000741271 no no ALAC 44.1kHz 24bit 2ch
Cold Chisel Teenage Love Main 16 1 1 3716 19950111 Rock, Hard Rock, Pop/Rock, Aussie Rock Large rovi:MR0001968831 no no ALAC 44.1kHz 24bit 2ch
Cold Chisel The Barking Spiders Live 1983 Main 12 1 1 2998 20030606 Rock, Pop/Rock, Aussie Rock, Hard Rock Large rovi:MW0001467728 no no ALAC 44.1kHz 24bit 2ch
Coldplay Ghost Stories Main 9 1 1 2557 20140516 Rock, Pop/Rock, Alternative/Indie Rock, Adult Alternative Pop/Rock Large rovi:MW0002630894 no no ALAC 44.1kHz 24bit 2ch
Colin Hay Looking for Jack Main 11 1 1 2835 19870000 Rock, Contemporary Pop/Rock, Pop/Rock Medium rovi:MW0000194098 no no ALAC 44.1kHz 24bit 2ch
Cyndi Lauper She’s So Unusual 2000 Reissue Main 13 1 1 3195 19831014 New Wave, Pop/Rock, New Wave, Contemporary Pop/Rock Large rovi:MW0000194590 no no ALAC 44.1kHz 24bit 2ch
Dire Straits Brothers in Arms XRCD2 Main 9 1 1 3313 19850500 Rock, Album Rock, Rock & Roll, Contemporary Pop/Rock, Pop/Rock Large rovi:MW0000650079 yes yes ALAC 44.1kHz 24bit 2ch
Eagles Their Greatest Hits 1971-1975 DCC Compact Classics Remaster Main 10 1 1 2632 19760217 Rock, Pop/Rock, Album Rock, Contemporary Pop/Rock, Country-Rock, Soft Rock Large rovi:MW0000189766 no no ALAC 44.1kHz 24bit 2ch
Eagles Hotel California Remastered Main 9 1 1 2603 19761208 Rock, Album Rock, Contemporary Pop/Rock, Pop/Rock, Country-Rock, Soft Rock Large rovi:MW0000189884 yes yes ALAC 44.1kHz 24bit 2ch
Earth, Wind & Fire Last Days and Time Main 11 1 1 2394 19721100 R&B, Soul, R&B, Funk, Psychedelic Soul Large rovi:MW0000318254 no no ALAC 44.1kHz 24bit 2ch
Earth, Wind & Fire Head to the Sky Main 6 1 1 2208 19730500 R&B, R&B, Funk, Soul Large rovi:MW0000198798 no no ALAC 44.1kHz 24bit 2ch
Earth, Wind & Fire Gratitude Main 17 1 1 4363 19751111 R&B, Smooth Soul, Soul, Funk, R&B, Quiet Storm Large rovi:MW0000010945 no no ALAC 44.1kHz 24bit 2ch
Elan Street Child Main 13 1 1 3458 20030000 Rock, Pop Medium no no ALAC 44.1kHz 24bit 2ch

Did you rip these from CD or acquire them from another source?

If you ripped them, what ripper did you use and what settings were at work ?

They were ripped in iTunes.

Actually, some were ripped from FLAC to ALAC in XLD.

If the bitdepth tag is set to 24 then it seems likely that a setting was wrong when they were ripped or converted. Your audio editor may be analysing the track rather than displaying a tag. If you’re satisfied that all the albums are actually 16 bit then a batch edit in the tag editor might be the best solution.

Sounds like the right conclusion, thanks.