Does anyone know if the DAC in the aavik U-180 is roon ready? So can be used as an endpoint? I know the streamers are. Not so sure about the DAC?
Not sure how this works?
hi Tom
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https://roon.app/en/partners
From my understanding but I might be wrong, a device to be Roon Ready has to have Roon Bridge (and be certified), so have ethernet or wifi.
Dacs by themselves do not have ethernet connection and need another device (a device that has to have roon bridge on it) in order for them to be network endpoints. Roon Tested is for dacs (usb, HDMI etc)
Hope it helps
Feel free to ask anything
also hope other users will correct me if I’m wrong
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I think you are right. It’s the ethernet on streamer making it a roon endpoint. Dacs can just be added.
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It can be confusing. I think that any device with audio out can be an endpoint.
One type of connecting is ethernet so that is using “Roon advanced Audio Transport” (RAAT) and if roon certifies the devices it becomes Roon Ready.
Also you can connect directly to the computer running roon and there is no ethernet involved, USB Dacs that when certified they become Roon Tested.
And you can have 2 devices in one or just keep 2: a Roon Ready with usb out to a Roon Tested.
Not exactly correct. Roon Bridge is Roon software a user installs on a computer device to enable it to be an endpoint. Roon Ready is not using Roon Bridge it has embedded Roon code for RAAT SDK in the device this is not the same as the bridge and the api has more things to feed back from the streaming device. Roon Ready is only given to devices that can stream over the network, this can be a DAC with built in streaming, a dedicated streamer with no DAC or an all in one amplified system such as an amp or speakers.
Roon tested is the designation given to DACs that have been tested with Roon using USB and not a network connection. Many dacs can be both Roon Ready and Roon tested if they have a network port and Roons code built in as well.
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Great
I bit to technical for my with the “api” but slowly I’ll get it.
My question is how you call the device running the RAAT SDK? In the case of roon the streamer is the core. If I call it bridge it would implied it is running bridge. If I call it Roon Ready it has to be certified and I think there can be devices running RAAT SDK without beeing certified.
And side question is there a option for me to install just RAAT SDK on linux without Roon Bridge? This was my mistake that I was grouping all under Bridge.
That is only available for manufacturers.
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So my question should be: Can the Aavik U-180 run Roon/RAAT as data? Almost everything I connect to my network shows up in ROON.
there is no ethernet on Aavik U-180, you need a device with RAAT SDK or a comp with roon bridge, or connect directly to the comp running core
hope I’m right
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Dacs don’t take anything but PCM. If you connect a DAC to a computer via USB which is running the core then RAAT is used to internally process/transfer data through Roon at the different stages and then it sends on PCM to the DAC via the connection your using. You can see this in the signal path. Same goes if you’re using Roons Bridge software on another computer and connect that to a DAC.
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SDK means “Software Development Kit.” You can’t install it and have it do anything without writing software that wraps around it and actually does something.
If you are developing a Roon Ready device, you would do that, if you are not, it is of no use (other than maybe some academic interest) to anyone.
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Good explanation, thanks
I wonder what the DAC implementation in the U-180 is?
I’d be wary of dropping $10K on an integrated DAC/amp, class D, that in this day and age only has S/PDIF digital inputs, and is NOT Roon Ready. I’d think you could do a lot better for the same amount of money. But it does apparently include active Tesla coils.
You’re welcome!
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It’s an amp, not a streamer, it can’t be Roon Ready. And it does have USB input. Now whether those Tesla coils actually do anything useful is another question.
On the other hand while the digital input is probably sufficient for all real purposes, 24/192 and up to DSD128 over USB isn’t exactly state of the art…
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Hey, I’ve got an integrated amp with a built-in DAC, and it is Roon Ready, as well. Just saying, for that much money, you could get more. Like an Ethernet jack.
As for that USB port, I think it’s just USB-A, for plugging thumb drives into.
Well Aavik class D amp is what I was looking for. I heard a lot of amps and dacs. This was just so exceptional good I wanted one.
It sounds not like a typical class D. It’s very detailed and is even slightly warmer than maybe a moon.
Anyways I still have the rose RS150B as streamer and dac as well. But I want a streamer only and use the dac in the Aavik. I really like the dac in the Aavik. I need to wait 1 more month to get it though.
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Then it must have some sort of a network connection, no?
There’s even a picture of the backside a few messages above. It’s a USB-B port, and the spec sheet does say that it is a digital audio input… Whether it is actually worth $10 grand is another question.
I completely agree. A good class D amp is the way to go these days. What speakers are you going to use?
Indeed.
Yes, I see it now. My mistake.