The new ones are only available with internal DSP and analog input
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Ok, thanks.
Seems to be a trend, which I find odd, to have internal DSP but not to offer digital input.
So instead of 2 of 3 of your studio grade monitors ruining your HQPlayer Native DSD DAC output, all 3 of them are ??
Is this better news for you? 
But whatās wrong with your current 3 monitors? They are studio grade you said ?
When I was initially trying to help you by pointing out your sub-optimal use with HQPlayer with your monitors, you said my comments are āstrangeā ??
It appears that the words āstudio-gradeā are causing some sort of allergic reaction for you. 
Sorry, but Iāve to use the āstudio-gradeā words because they are studio-grade reference monitors.
Itās neither ābetterā nor bad news. There is nothing wrong with my current 3 monitors.
Having DSP may be āsub-optimalā for you but not for me. Both digital and analog crossovers have their advantages and disadvantages. So one is not ābetterā than its competitor.
I am a collector similar to Zeospantera, and I enjoy collecting monitors and speakers. In addition to the three monitors, I already have a Sony MHC-RV60, a Yamaha NS-10, an F&D RV60BT, a Swan M100MKIII, and some DIY systems. This is why I was searching for the Telegrapher Fox. I found your comment to be biased, which is why I used the word āstrangeā.
How can I consider all DSP to be sub-optimal?
In my main speaker system, there is no analogue or digital XO inside my KEF R3āsā¦ the original XO is in a box somewhere.
As I previously mentioned, the crossover lives inside HQPlayerās DSP engine, together with room correction. I can run my crossover at PCM353kHz or DSD256ā¦
I specifically commented about your ADC which follows the great work HQPlayer does to help your recordings before they go to your Native DSD DACā¦
ADC before HQPlayer is fine - Jussi feeds his vinyl into HQPlayer and applies very helpful DSP to his vinyl. ADC after your Native DSD DAC output doesnāt make sense.
I have a pair of Yamaha NS-10ās also which I have made active for a fun project. Mainly because they are a classic item, not for their SQ.
Could you please clarify why you have been repeatedly referring to the three studio-grade monitors as āsub-optimalā? I noticed that you specifically mentioned their ADCs as being ācrappyā and āsub-optimal,ā which suggests that you have some knowledge about their ADCs quality. If possible, could you please share the source of your information?
Have you understood Jussiās posts?
The DACs inside are not as good as the Native DSD DACs you useā¦
Are you still not understanding what myself and Jussi wrote about then passing it through a cheap ADC + DAC after your Native DSD DAC output ?
If you donāt understand this part, then it makes sense why you are still confused by my sub-optimal commentā¦
I apologize if I missed it, but Jussi did not use the words ācrappyā or āsub-optimalā anywhere.
I donāt think @jussi_laako needs to reply but Iām sure he will agree with me that your two DSD Direct DACs are significantly better than the DACs inside your DSP monitorsā¦ especially feeding them DSD256ā¦
i.e. in comparison to iFi and Holo, they are indeed crappy.
The sub-optimal part is (for the 7th time I repeat this I thinkā¦) that you take the beautiful Holo/iFi analogue output, then run it through a cheap ADC and then a cheap DAC.
I donāt know how else I can communicate this in a different way, 7 times is failing 
Iāll get back to you after finishing the count.
At least according to Neumann website their monitors are analog. You can add DSP through a subwoofer if you want though.
Genelec also has pure analog models.
Yes, at this price point of the fox I would go for a KH310A, a well reputed 3 way analog studio monitor. They also seem to be on sale, maybe a new version is on the way and than most likely a DSP version like the 80, 120 and 150.
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Personally I would pay a bit more for KH 420, out of those 2 options.
Both of them have average vertical directivity - not a problem for far field listening. For nearfield, unless you have your head in a vice, tonality will change as you move your head at your desk.
For horizontal directivity the KH 420 is better. This below is beautiful
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Yeah, bigger is always better. 
The KH420 is nearly three times the price of the KH310 so not really only a bit more expensive.
The 420 is a midfield to main monitor, the KH310 is near field so both are for different use cases.
There is also the KH 420 G, which has optional digital input module or can be turned DSP system with KH 750 subwoofer.
From Genelec range, there are G One, Two, Three, Four and Five.
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Thanks, was not aware of this newer version of the 420. Since my 8351A, I am a bit out of the market for speakers.
and I would never get my wife to accept something āas ugly asā the 420 in our living room. 
I tend to ignore the marketing.
There are combinations of small nearfield+subs that perform better than main+subs, regardless of how they are marketed.
Itās really about the performance: on and off axis frequency response, distortion vs level etc.
Not always
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I am always wandering, does the aluminium fabric tweeter in the 420 count as a horrible metal tweeter or fabric tweeter?
Edit:
btw my dream speaker would be a JBL 4335 in my own listening room and without neighbours.
Bigger is better! (I know there is still the 4355, but to much is to much)
Not like this crazy guy: https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/H1oxc9tlx7L.mp4
Iām using the Sublime k231 analog active crossover for my 3way speaker.
The Sublime sits between the preamp and amps. Itās a fantastic solution.
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Which one are you referring to? I couldnāt find a single monitor without DSP on the Neumann website.