Android device unable to consistently connect to Nucleus (ref#5Y0DD0)

Is Roon Server running?

· Yes, Roon Server is turned on and running.

What do you see on your screen?

· "Waiting for your Roon Server"

What happens if you press the "Select a different Roon Server" button?

· I don't see Roon Server.

Please try to restart your Roon Server by closing the Roon app in the taskbar or rebooting your Roon Server machine.

· No, the issue remains the same

Please try to restart your network setup by unplugging, waiting 30 seconds and then replugging in your networking gear.

· No, the issue remains the same

Please select how you've connected your Roon Server to the internet

· Roon Server is connected by *Ethernet*

Have you checked your firewall settings to ensure that Roon is allowed through?

· Roon still won't connect even after checking this aspect

Have you verified that Roon Server is on the same subnet as your Remotes?

· My Remotes and Server are on the same subnet and I still can't connect

Sometimes the issues can be resolved with a reinstall of your Roon Remote app. Let's try to perform a reinstall and see if it helps.

· I've reinstalled the Roon Remote but it did not help

What is the operating system of your Roon Server host machine?

· *Nucleus*

Select any of the following components that are present in your local network setup

· None of the above

Describe the issue

Android device has often problems to connect to Nucleus. My apple device never has.

Describe your network setup

Router

Hey @Boris_Huber,

Good to see you on community again!

It would be helpful if you could provide more information around the issue device, specifically the make a model, as well see more than one Android-related device tied to your account.

As a first step, I’d remove Roon and perform a fresh install on the issue device. If your issue persists after this, share the specific date, time, and the name of the track playing at the time of the disconnect.

From there, our team should be able to enable diagnostics on your Roon Server for further information. We’ll be on standby for your reply, thanks! :raised_hands:

Hello Benjamin,
I have a Motorola G54 Mobile phone and a Lenovo Tab M10.
It is not the problem that they disconnect while playing. But sometime, e.g. when I come home and want to hear music, the app doesn’t find roon for a long time. But all my apple device work perfectly, so the roon server is on and the network is ok.
I already tried to reinstall everything but the problem remains. Sometime they connect immediately, sometime they don’t.

Hey @Boris_Huber,

Thanks for the update!

The above description sounds like it could potentially be a network-related issue, and a tad bit difficult to pin down. :sweat_smile:

With that, we’re not seeing any errors from your Roon Server machine around the timestamp you’ve shared in your screenshot. Would you be able to share another screenshot the next time this happens?

Ideally, having a set of Roon logs from the issue device would be helpful as well. It’s a bit of a process to gather them from android devices, but I’ll share the steps on how to do this below:

Connect your PC to Android phone and install ADB (instructions are here (all platforms)). Then:

  1. Type adb shell in terminal
  2. Type logcat v (ref: Logcat command-line tool  |  Android Studio  |  Android Developers)
  3. Reproduce the problem and let terminal print logs for 3-5 more seconds
  4. Select output from the moment you started the reproduction of the bug till the very end
  5. Upload the log here and let us know once you have done so:

https://workdrive.zohoexternal.com/collection/8i5239cc05950ac07456889838d9319545a82/external

Thank you!

Hello Benjamin,
Thanks for your answer.
Yesterday, again I had problems to connect and made screenshots:
the first one at 17:49 shows “warte auf deinen Roon server” (waiting)
then some seconds later “suche nach deinem Roon server” (searching)
then I took an apple device: no problem to connect
at 17:53 on Android still searching - I klicked on “Configure Roon OS devices”
at 17:55 the Roon OS device was found
then I connected to Nucleus

I hope this helps…
Kind regards
Boris

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Hi @Boris_Huber,

Since the iPhone connects and the Android phone doesn’t on the same network, let’s explore some possible differences in the network interface portion of the Android phone.

Please try the following on the Android:

  1. Open Settings
  2. Select Network & Internet
  3. Select Wi-Fi
  4. Select your home network
  5. Select Advanced
  6. Select Privacy
  7. Select “Use Device MAC”

Next, please navigate to Settings > System > Advanced > Developer Options > Networking > Wi-Fi-Enhanced MAC Randomization. Make sure it’s turned off.

Then power the phone off and back on. Open Roon and try to connect.

Please let us know if this helps.

Hi connor,
I did as you wrote:

  1. Open Settings
  2. Select Network & Internet
  3. Select Wi-Fi
  4. Select your home network
  5. Select Advanced
  6. Select Privacy
  7. Select “Use Device MAC”

Next, please navigate to Settings > System > Advanced > Developer Options
…on my phone there is no such option. But I made it into the developer mode by clicking 10x on the build number!

Networking > Wi-Fi-Enhanced MAC Randomization.
… I found that (hurrah) but there is no option to turn off…

Kind regards,
Boris


Hello,
I did as you wrote me,but the problem is still the same. Today I tried to connect (see screenshots),

At 08;48 there is still no connection. At 08:50 it worked.
Kind regards
Boris





Hey @Boris_Huber,

So after a few minutes, you’re able to connect and don’t have any issues? I’m not certain we’ll be able to improve the connection speed on our end, but if you’d like, feel free to share a set of Android logs from the steps I’ve listed out above - we didnt’ see anything uploaded on our end.

Let me know if thats at all possible!

Another short test could be to try out our .APK download of Roon, it likely wouldn’t affect the connection timing, but is a quick a useful test none the less, here’s the download link:

https://download.roonlabs.net/builds/RoonMobile.apk

Hello,

I really dont know how to get the android logs.

I downloaded the adk platform tools, started the adb,exe from the dos command line, but nothing happend.

Is there another simpler way? I am no Windows or android expert.

Kind regards,

Boris

Hi @Boris_Huber,

We want to narrow down the precise difference in behavior in the instances when the phone connects and those times when it doesn’t connect.

When the Android phone fails to find the Nucleus:

  1. Are you switching from cellular data to WiFi for the first time in several hours? Or are you switching from a separate WiFi network?

  2. Does restarting the phone on your home WiFi always allow it to connect to the Nucleus? Or does restarting not always help? We’d like to clarify this point as much as possible.

What about the tablet? Does restarting allow that to connect?

Lastly:

Turn the phone and the tablet off side by side. Then turn both back on. Do both reconnect to RoonServer?

Let’s also illuminate your network topology. Do you have any other network or WiFi hardware in this setup, like mesh nodes or switches? Is the Nucleus hardwired directly to your router?

Hello,
When I came home at in afternoon I tried to connect with my android - this took a while, I changed to english and back to german and after some minutes it connected. Some minutes ago from now I read your message and turned off wifi, turned it on again, and again it took a while to connect.
Then I closed the roon app and tried to connect again…waiting some minutes until it worked,
then i completely switched off my mobile, turned it on again and am still waiting to connect, … The appkle device always finds roon server at once.
I hope this helps .
Thank you for your help,
Kind regards
Borus

Hello.
Just now it took again a long time to connect. I searched for the nucleus, and as it was found there was still no connection. Then I switched to English and restarted. Then I was connected. I switched to German and again no connection.
Regards Boris

Hi @Boris_Huber,

Thank you for sharing. We’ll pass these notes to our QA team to test internally. Please stand by.

Hello Connor,

Do you have news concerning my problem with Android?

Kind Regards,

Boris

Hi @Boris_Huber,

Unfortunately, we don’t have any updates to share at this time. Your case is still in the queue for QA review, we’ll follow up once they’ve had a chance to take a closer look.

Thanks for your patience in the meantime! :+1:

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