In personal curation, Qobuz is ahead. Many learn from Spotify when it comes to automated recommendations. Tidal is number 2 for me, Deezer follows in third place.
Apple probably only gets it right with very few customers. Those who already have a very long and rich purchase history provide more usable data. That used to be 800,000,000 customers, where did 95% of them go?
MusicMatchâ>MOGâ>Beatsâ>Apple were way ahead in time and technology and the golden streaming apple was within reach. What did Apple make of it? Failed, rebuilt again and again, and failed to deliver on promises.
Tidal got better after I gave you my Spotify favorites via TuneMyMusic. Apple didnât do it even with that. Deezer was more adaptive that way too.
For all titles on Apple Music. Need to bring up info and change genre to anything you want. Then youâll find all your tagged albums under Genres.
Have a look at the two screenshots. The tag âBaroque Vocalâ is mine.
So I only tried it out a little bit when Hifi was first announced to see if I would like Spotify. I used Soundliz to sync my current Qobuz favorites and then it was still able to pull in all my Tidal favorites even though I donât have an active account. From there I was using the daily playlist for working out and thought they did a pretty good job. Over time there was some repeats of same songs and had to unmarked them. After workout Iâd go back to some great finds and try to find them on Qobuz and a lot of times the album was missing.
So I canât say Iâve used it enough to see how the discovery features work since just using daily playlists donât help build it. I did really like the expanded library over Qobuz. The interface is not a pretty as Apple Music but easier to use. Spotify Connect worked great with Naim HE streamer. Volume on iPhone and iPad controlled the streamer and hand off between devices pretty seamless. There are some advanced search features where can search for any of these or in combination; years, genre, label. Something roon canât do from streaming service until you already favorited it.
So all in all I though Spotify competed well with the roon interface and worked seamless with Naim HE. Donât really care wonât have hires over cd quality since having larger library makes up for it and cd quality sounds excellent on the streamer. Now after expanded use, if I donât like it and Iâll just end up back with Qobuz/roon.
I will say this. Iâve been an Apple fan for a long time and still buy iPhones and iMacs. I used to their software from Aperture to iTunes. They closed down Aperture and now use Lightroom. iTunes is now just Music, havenât touch since streaming and using roon. I do think Apple Music interface is pretty slick and fits well with iPhone and iPad. Probably if I used it more, I would be quicker at figuring things out. I do like how it has direct link to the album label and then can quickly see other albums on same label.
If Apple came out with a connect feature, I probably end up using them over Spotify. It also upsetting that lossless music isnât really lossless over Airplay 2 but Apple doesnât if tell you that. They just sort of leave wireless streaming out of their text on how to get true lossless music. Iâm sure if they fix this Iâll give Apple another try.
I donât think Spotify is leading the way in viewing and selecting the genre of âclassicalâ. Hopes were better fulfilled with other providers (Qobuz, Idagio & Co.).
But there are also satisfied classical customers at Apple, Tidal, Deezer, Amazon, Google or Spotify, although it is clear that only Tidal and Deezer played in the Hi-Res league.
When the catalogs and technology are converted to Hi-Res without compromise, other providers may claim the same. Some are nimble with words, but donât follow up with action for months or years.
In the presentation, Roon sets the standards and integrates two Hi-Res music services at once. The friend of classical music does not miss out either and can select many subgenres or styles in âClassicalâ. I assume the good handling is known.
However, you can also get suggestions for searching and filtering very well with Spotify. I present this better in a separate thread using the example of âClassicalâ, which also always plays a prominent role here.
How can it not work with Roon? Oh, sh*t, just realised this probably means you have to play it from the Apple programme unless they are selling albums which if they can be downloaded should mean they can be played via Roon.
If Apple Music can only be used with their programme then I wonât use it. Iâll stick with Qobuz. Tidal is too expensive. I can afford it and I subbed but after 3 months of paying ÂŁ20 a month, I realized I wasnât using it enough plus their customer service is appalling. One cannot, as far as I can ascertain buy albums in hi res or MQA.
If Tidal is too expensive then you should see how much CDâs cost back in the day⌠Tidalâs costs what it costs, the issue is, can we afford it? Artists, writers, players do not get paid enough in general and Music, despite the illusion, is not free. In reality streaming is too cheap todayâŚ
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Or the money isnât reaching the right people. Transparency is also an issue here.
Kind of interesting that people now seem to care for how artists are paid when we are charged on a per use bases. Cannot recall such frequent discussions back in the CD or vinyl times. An amount of empathy I donât really trust.
