He means the Octive. New PSA music server.
Got it. Interesting.
Itâs not out yet and given their software/hardware development cycles I doubt we see it before 2019.
Yeah. I admire their stuff even though it is almost all well out of my reach right now. Well except the Sprout which is now in a box in my trunk. Iâm looking forward to playing with it.
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Thereâs no doubt they happened but personally of the 4 listed there:
1 is worse
2 was functional
3 am indifferent (it updates slowly)
4 am indifferent now (wasnât a fan at launch)
Thereâs a whole host of inconsistencies, errors, and design that could be improved upon massively.
Would be great to see some updates towards this.
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Sometimes I wonder if users here buy Roon because they are addicted to new technical fixes every day, updates, MQA etcâŚor if they just use the Roon software to enjoy the music like me!
Are we a minor group here?
Ps: I am also cured from addiction to new hifi equipment every time I get my monthly salaryđ
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I like the updates. The product just keeps getting better and better.
My only real wish is that they could find a way to integrate another streaming service just in case Tidal doesnât make it.
This is mostly due to the streaming services reluctanceâŚnot Roonâs I think.
If the software doesnt meet you ideals move on or go develop your ownâŚsee how you fair in the department.
Bit harsh?
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More than a bit and most unlike the wizard.
Apologies. Yes a bit harsh perhaps. Sorry but they are your best options. Granted developing your own is not a likelihood option but I was implying itâs not an easy thing to please everyone.
Next best is I guess get to the feature request area and put together a comprehensive design scope that you think would meet your needs so development teams can discuss and others can put points forward. That will will get you more traction than just saying you donât think itâs good enough now.
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Wow. I suggest you stop and take a deep breath before you react to posts.
I said I like the software and it keeps getting better and better.
Then said, I wish they âcould find a way to integrate another streaming serviceâ. Who knows if Tidal will stay in business? Didnât blame or criticize Roon; I know all about the reasons.
Whatâs with your dismissive reply?
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That wasnât directed at you @danny2 âŚwell not the developer your own bit anywayâŚsorry if it was taken that wayâŚthe quite on meant to reference the other streaming sources.
The actual product issue was directed at @hifi_swlon and I apologized for that.
Just because Roon wants to engage other streaming doesnât mean itâs a win winâŚsadly Roon canât add more service providers unless they want to to be or are even geared up be able integrate in one way or another with Roon. Lucky for many of us tidal was a player that came on board, but it wasnât why I bought Roon lifetime soon as I signed up.
Iâm a fan of Roon, have no issues with releases or features and bought into all of this well before tidal was part of the capability.
Huh, I actually thought it was aimed at @danny2, so now Iâm completely offended!! (not really) 
I think most UI items (and other Roon features which fall a bit short) are more than covered already in feature requests, and more generally on this forumâŚ
For some reason the UI ones just donât seem to get such high priority, and I think thatâs a shame because in all honestly Roonâs standards seem lower here than in other areas, and probably lower than when they started out. Thatâs not to say its bad - far from it its the best UI Iâve used - so it has to be taken on context. Iâd just hoped it would continually get better, and that side hasnât met my (admittedly high) expectations. That is of course just my personal opinion.
I could of course develop my own, and am quite into the idea of doing some more âclient facingâ software one day - but in terms of a music player, but why would I? I love Roon in general - and it serves my needs better than anything that came before it - but at the same time I think it has a lot of room for improvement. Would love to see software updates focussed more on UI in the future, as for to me that aspect has become more inconsistent and less polished over time. Itâs great to see all the features that have been added, but just needs tidying up.
Think itâs fair to voice that - which I do try and do constructively and politely in general - although admittedly it may not always come across.
As long as we all try to be constructive regardless of it being criticism or suggestions I guess its all good. Didnât mean to offend anyone if I did. 
Well, we know a major shakeup of the UI is in the works - and because it is major, it will presumably be a while before it sees the light of day. One possibility for the lack of fixing up the current UI is because, other than bug fixing, development resources are being focused on the new UI?
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Thatâs what Iâm hoping, and I trust your instinct on that Geoff. 
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Todayâs Chromcast addition shows that updates are coming along nicely. They may not be in the order one wishes, but come they doâŚ
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The updates might be further apart but they seem to be bigger ticket items. MQA and Chromecast being the last two. The former Iâm not too fussed by, the latter I was - and they have done it spectacularly.
The updates do seem to be less UX focussed - maybe because there is a big redesign in the works. That said the Roon folks who are on here regularly and engage with customers arenât the UX folks.
I also had the impression that things are slowing down; but Iâm looking forward to the âUI overhaulâ that has been mentioned and am hoping for some of the feature requests to be incorporated!
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