BT Modem/Router in UK blocking Roon access (ref#M4E4OB)

Is Roon Server running?

· Yes, Roon Server is turned on and running.

What do you see on your screen?

· "Waiting for your Roon Server"

What happens if you press the "Select a different Roon Server" button?

· I don't see Roon Server.

Please try to restart your Roon Server by closing the Roon app in the taskbar or rebooting your Roon Server machine.

· No, the issue remains the same

Please try to restart your network setup by unplugging, waiting 30 seconds and then replugging in your networking gear.

· No, the issue remains the same

Please select how you've connected your Roon Server to the internet

· Roon Server is connected by *Ethernet*

Have you checked your firewall settings to ensure that Roon is allowed through?

· Roon still won't connect even after checking this aspect

Have you verified that Roon Server is on the same subnet as your Remotes?

· My Remotes and Server are on the same subnet and I still can't connect

Sometimes the issues can be resolved with a reinstall of your Roon Remote app. Let's try to perform a reinstall and see if it helps.

· I've reinstalled the Roon Remote but it did not help

What is the operating system of your Roon Server host machine?

· *Windows*

Select any of the following components that are present in your local network setup

· None of the above

Describe the issue

In the UK the BT Modem/Router stops Roon Access

Describe your network setup

We are a manufacturer of Windows servers. Customers that install Roon in the UK that also have BT modem/routers can not connect to Roon.

There are several BT router workarounds in ARC: Port Forwarding Resources, maybe something is helpful.

In any case, users can switch to Tailscale instead of port forwarding:

This is incorrect. Roon ARC does work with BT Home Hubs. You’ll need to set up a manual port forwarding rule and direct this to the Roon server. In addition, IPV6 should be disabled.

Alternatively, use Tailscale as described in thew above post.

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Hi @CAD,

Thanks for writing in and sharing your report!

Both @Suedkiez and @mjw have shared accurate information above (thank you!) and I feel it’s best to review what’s been shared to see if either solutions may work for you before moving any further.

Let us know your results, and we’ll be monitoring for your reply! :+1:

Is there any simple Roon guide on how to set up a manual port forwarding rule for Roon? I searched and could not find anything…

Not sure if it matters, but we are not using ARC.

BT has a guide on how to Port Forward with their differnet routers:

Thanks!

If you’re not using ARC, then there’s no need for port forwarding.

However, guides are available in the Help Centre.

… but there are many Roon users with BT routers where it does work.

I think I’d try Roon on a standard Windows box.

Re Check the windoze firewall rules and make sure roon and server are added

Bold statement and untrue. I ran mine for a couple of years without no issues at all. I tried port forwarding and then disabled it all and moved on to Tailscale. I’d highly recommend looking to to this option.

Thanks for all the responses!

We use a highly modified Windows OS and the Firewall is disabled. We are going to try Port Forwarding first and see how that works.

As stated in other posts, if you are not speaking about ARC there is no need for port forwarding

Thanks for the warning

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But you said …

Port forwarding is only needed to use Roon ARC. I pointed this out earlier.

If something else isn’t working for you, please let us know.

We have progress!

To explain what we have been through we have a couple customers in the UK that when our server is connected to a BT Hub (modem/router) they can see this on their Roon Remote app:

When they click Connect they get this screen in Roon Remote:

Its just a white screen and nothing happens - for hours…

I just had a customer go into their BT Hub setting and setup Port Forwarding like this:

And it worked!

After no Roon for a couple months he is back again using Roon.

Just for more information:

  • If the server was connected to a differnet modem/router (not a BT Hub) Roon worked fine.

  • If Roon was uninstalled and alternative playback software was used the server worked fine with the BT Hub.

  • ARC is not being used

The port forwarding rule in your screenshot does absolutely nothing in a Roon setup without ARC.

To be frank, as a regular user I shudder to think that a company that clearly has zero grasp of networking goes around and changes Windows, including turning off its firewall, and sells the result for 14k to unsuspecting people who have even less clue.

The first screenshot does however show an ipV6 address, the last shows an ipV4.

Not that I have the slightest idea why setting up a port forwarding rule would change anything, but ipV6 has given people grief in the past…

I don’t doubt that something was probably changed on the router between the non-working and working states….

@support - any thoughts?

Exactly. We’ve been saying this for a couple of days now.

Almost certainly something is preventing Roon server from discovering the remote, and by changing the port forwarding, the router restarted, and the issue was briefly cleared. My guess is that the issue will reappear if the server is rebooted.

But, as @AndyR suggests, turn off IPV6 in the Homehub.

Hi @CAD, everyone,

Thanks for your post. In the experience of this forum, there’s no known factory-shipped setting on any tier of BT Home Hub that blocks Roon’s local discovery or handshake protocols, so we’d like to look at this more closely.

As stated above, Roon does not rely on port forwarding for any interaction with Roon Remotes inside the LAN. If changing this feature had an effect for you, it’s likely a secondary effect.

If RoonServer can reach upstream services and login, but spins when connecting to a Remote, we’d need to see the particular failure logged in the relevant server instance itself. If this is a modified Windows OS, I recommend ensuring that the Defender firewall or any other stateful network features have safelisted Roon. Roon’s port assignment is dynamic to an extent, so if there are port restrictions anywhere on this network, safelisting Roon’s processes becomes a surgical activity. It’s for this reason that we don’t often recommend Roon on enterprise or highly-managed LANs.

If you can zip up the logs and upload them for the particular RoonServer Windows machine with which you’ve been testing, we’d certainly like to take a closer look. You can use the directions found here and send over a set of logs to our File Uploader at your convenience.

Thank you!

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Hi Conner, thank you very much for your help! I will get those logs uploaded to you.