After reading threads w similar topics I launched Roon and immediately navigated to the Settings/Services tab. I noticed the spinning syncing indicator. It crashed while in this mode. So to clarify/correct an earlier answer I gave: No Tidal wasnât finished syncing.
Hey @dbtom2 â weâve seen two other users having stability issues with similar symptoms. Weâre investigating but Iâll follow up later tonight to get some logs from you.
Earlier I told you I reinstalled Roon (64 bits) and everything seemed to be OK, but in the last 10 minutes I have had two crashes after restarting. I just restarted again, and an immediate crash.
Everything on my MacMini Yosemite was stable until I decided to do some housekeeping. I was getting inconsistent action when I selected âAdd To Libraryâ. Not a biggie but my library was getting unwieldy.
I deleted about 19,000 Tidal tracks (using FOCUS) that were added when I first installed Roon last June. I was looking to narrow down the size of my Tidal Favorites.
The deletion worked - in Tidal - but Roon started crashing right away. Roon doesnât crash when I disconnect the Tidal login in under Settings/Services so I figure it has something to do with Tidal.
Thanks guys â weâre still gathering information on this, so your patience is appreciated as we work to reproduce this and get it resolved.
In the meantime, assuming you have a backup, you might want to find your Roon folder and rename it to something else temporarily, like Roon_old.
Then, you can safely reinstall Roon and you should be able to use Roon with a new database, while we look into these issues. If the crashing doesnât start until you add your Tidal account, please let me know ok?
Sorry again for the trouble here. Talk to you guys soon!
I couldnât get Roon to stay open more than a minute or two before it crashedâŚ
I just disabled Tidal from services and it seems to be running fine and not crashing.
I wonder if this is related to both Tidal and the number of additional tracks loaded into the library when Tidal is running (though I donât think the number of tracks should be a problem with a 64 bit system).
Still crashing when I add Tidal⌠âŚRuns fine without Tidal.
I went into Tidal app and deleted all the Artists, Albums and Playlists. I deleted the most recent first and reran Roon while hoping that the recent Tidal additions were the cause of the syncing problems.
Performed the Library Maintenance in Roon. Interestingly, though Tidal kept crashing as it synced, the number of orphan tracks listed under Library Maintenance decreased in size as I reduced the number of Artists, Albums, and Playlists in Tidal.
Deleted the Roon Cache folder.
Did everything I could in several iterations to start Roon with a âcleanâ Tidal database.
Thanks guys â weâve made some progress in our investigation over the last few hours, and weâve uncovered what we think could be the cause. Weâre still confirming the issue, but once thatâs complete weâll start testing a fix and prepare to release it to everyone.
For the moment, I donât really have a good workaround to offer. We believe that starting with a completely new TIDAL account should resolve the issue, but thatâs pretty inconvenient, and might not be 100% effective in every case â certain behaviors (like adding then deleting content from the new accountâs library) might trigger this issue again.
Apologies for the trouble all. Weâre working hard to get a fix out to everyone as soon as possible, so thanks again for your patience everyone.
I needed to clean up the Tidal part of my library anyway. I made note of the Artists, Albums, and Playlists that I want to keep so adding them wonât be a big deal.
To recap:
The âAdd To Libraryâ function has been intermittent for me since the very beginning of my Roon subscription last spring. It worked most of the time.
When the Beatles catalog became available on Roon I couldnât add certain albums. Others added fine. This got me looking at the extent of Tidal tracks in my library. Almost 20,000 in addition to the 26,000 of my own. I deleted about 19,000 Tidal tracks and thatâs when Roon started crashing.
I can still listen to my music using either Roon or the Tidal app. No worries, just a few more mouse strokes.
Thank you for acknowledging that progress is being made to fix this issue.
This thread seems to be the same problem as in this thread which I posted a similar problem and Roon staff responded a solution is being tested currently.