If I can’t buy one used, I’m wondering if anyone can enlighten me as to the most inexpensive Roon Rock? Noob here, but I’ve built PCs before. I looked at the page here and was a bit confused re what NUCs work. I also would be open to building a compact pc, but the posts I have seen are a bit outdated. If anyone has done this, I’d be grateful for a parts list!!!
Have you seen the component list here: https://kb.roonlabs.com/Roon_Optimized_Core_Kit? NUC with i3 processor plus memory and SSD is around £330. These are 8th generation NUCs.
Since you said you had experience building PC’s and were looking for something inexpensive, I thought I might mention another option to consider. I run my Roon setup off of a couple of Ubuntu Server 18.04 LTS boxes that are running Roon Server (instead of Roon Rock) and a secondary Ubuntu box (a spare 2011 Dell workstation) that I use as a Samba share with a large storage disk for additional music. You said that you were a “Noob” but it was hard to tell if you meant a “Roon noob” or a “computer noob”. The point of this post (since you seemed to be concerned about hardware compatibility) was to point out that as far as I can tell, any box that can run a compatible Linux distribution will run Roon Server with no problem. If you’re comfortable installing Samba and setting up a share to the PC/Mac where you’re ripping CD’s or downloading hi-res albums then this was a nice solution that worked well with my available machines & skill set. I’m sure similar results could be had with Windows as well.
To summarize and directly answer your question, the most inexpensive “Roon Rock” can be Roon Server running on any hardware you can load an operating system on. It’s not as automated as Rock but I’ve been very pleased with the results. I found the additional setup work required to be trivial and the extra control over the boxes to be nice. YMMV.
Many many thanks. Linux is way beyond my pay grade I’m afraid. I’m more of a build a gaming rig guy. . But I greatly appreciate your help and thank you.
RoonServer runs perfectly well on Windows. Here is my latest RoonServer Core.
Rock can run on many other base line machines. Look in #tinkering for MOCK discussion. If you have a spare ssd and a maybe not so busy gaming rig laying around doing nothing give ROCK a try on it.
Would i3 work with 30000 songs on a NAS?
The Roon documentation says that an i3 is suitable for “small to medium libraries” with no precise quantitative measurement for exactly what that is. The commercial Roon Nucleus player is based on an i3 the last time I checked. The documentation says it is suitable for up to 100,000 songs. The caveat being that certain hi-res DSD, upsampling & multichannel combinations may not perform optimally. I have an i7 that is overkill for 50k songs. It rarely goes above ~15% on the CPU. Right now I’m listening to some Rolling Stones and RoonAppliance is fluctuating between 3.2 & 6.5% of my CPU. So the deciding factor in your case might not be the quantity of songs but the type of demanding processing you might be doing. The vast majority of my collection is 44.1/16 from CD’s I acquired before using Roon. Intuition tells me an i3 should work well if you have a similar setup.
Many thanks. I’m just playing alac files, some at high res.
Yes, I think so … this would be equivalent to the Nucleus.
Up to 10,000 albums (100,000 tracks)
Up to 6 simultaneous zones
All DSP functions available in the PCM domain. Certain combinations of functions using DSD source or destination formats, upsampling, or multichannel processing may not be possible.
You can buy the components direct from Amazon for 330GBP (8th Generation i3 NUC.) See ROCK for Small to Medium Size Library in the KB.
I run one of my cores on a simple minix mini atom based pc and it does the job no problem at all. Can even use DSP up to 24/192 PCM.
It runs Win10 and I make sure all updates are turned off. It’s on 24/7 and has never let me down.
this is a great article…thank you!!!
FWIW, I purchased a 8th gen i7 on Saturday. It works amazingly well, but I admit that it’s probably overkill for what I use it for.
This is probably all you need: https://www.microcenter.com/product/511203/intel-nuc-mini-pc-kit-nuc8i3beh
I just bought a second hand Intel NUC5i5MYHE on eBay - i5-5300U Dual Core 2.3GHz for £149.99 delivered (unused, box opened, from a retailer so a lucky find maybe?) Added RAM 4Gb - £16.40 and SSD 120Gb for ROCK - £19.49 from Amazon (I already had a 500Gb Crucial SSD for my modest 500 album local library) Total - £186. I didn’t want to spend more really, was thinking of a second hand Mac Mini circa 2014 but they were quite a bit more expensive. The little box is immaculate as new, super fast, especially with 1.7, runs cool (fan doesn’t seem to ever switch off even though I’ve asked it to, but you can only hear a quiet whirring right up close) so I’m very pleased. It’s rock () solid streaming to my Raspberry Pi 4 endpoint in the main listening room.
PS. I’m doing a little DSP with speaker placement, plus some convolution filters for my Senn HD600 headphones and it doesn’t break into a sweat.