Can’t find Roon Core Server

Hey @James_Harvey, shouldn’t be a security issue here, but I’ll send you a PM in just a moment with the details I need.

Just replied via PM with images. Let me know if that doesn’t suffice. JH

TRIPLE glad to talk by phone if that helps. THat would be the most efficient way of resolving this.

So, I downloaded the update today in great anticipation of it fixing my problem and now the devices won’t even find the Roon core at all … OMG - can i get a refund of my lifetime subscription?

Still the same issues. I was finally able to get it to at least recognize the core, but the problem persists after the update. It got better when we changed the time zone on the Lampi to eastern US (my local time zone), but it is still there when I am changing tracks on hi rez files (anything above 44.1) FROM QOBUZ. The network map is below:

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Plus, here is a link to today’s logs: amazon.com/clouddrive/share/MjcHxATQFeBzD6YR94H6fchRkJak9iEtgnDH2SAdbfW

Please let me know. Thank you.

Probably should point to links by using a PM.

Uhhh roon? Just checking in. No music here.

Turn off content filtering in your Unifi or ISP router and try it again.

Hi @James_Harvey — Nuwriy is out of the office today, but I confirmed that our QA team in investigating your report and as soon as we receive further feedback from them either Nuwriy or I will get back to you right away. Sorry for the continued troubles here!

Hello @James_Harvey, and thanks for your patience while the team investigated your issue. After reviewing the network map you sent us, the QA team wants to know if you could try the following:

  1. Connect your macbook remote directly to the same switch as the Lampizator
  2. Try playing to system output of the macbook

Our team noted that they’re seeing dropouts when playing to the s/pdif output, which does indicate a network problem. You can review a trace of this below:

08/29 18:17:32 Trace: [HDA Intel PCH ALC1150 Digital] [raatclient] SENT [1312]{"request":"start","min_offset":60395833,"stream_sample":0}
08/29 18:17:32 Trace: [S/PDIF] [zoneplayer/raat] Endpoint HDA Intel PCH ALC1150 Digital State Changed: Ready => Playing
08/29 18:17:32 Trace: [streamingmediafile] immediate read of https://streaming-std.qobuz.com/file at 4718592 length=315103818
08/29 18:17:32 Trace: [HDA Intel PCH ALC1150 Digital] [raatclient] GOT [1311] {"status":"Playing"}
08/29 18:17:32 Trace: [HDA Intel PCH ALC1150 Digital] [raatclient] GOT [1312] {"time":28137029893467,"status":"Success"}
08/29 18:17:32 Debug: [prebuffer] sleeping in read -- this isn't good
08/29 18:17:32 Trace: [streamingmediafile] immediate read of https://streaming-std.qobuz.com/file at 4980736 length=315103818
08/29 18:17:33 Debug: [prebuffer] sleeping in read -- this isn't good
08/29 18:17:33 Trace: [streamingmediafile] immediate read of https://streaming-std.qobuz.com/file at 5242880 length=315103818
08/29 18:17:33 Debug: [prebuffer] sleeping in read -- this isn't good
08/29 18:17:34 Trace: [streamingmediafile] immediate read of https://streaming-std.qobuz.com/file at 5505024 length=315103818
08/29 18:17:34 Trace: [S/PDIF] [Lossless, 24/192 QOBUZ FLAC => 24/192] [2% buf] [PLAYING @ 0:01/6:15] Summertime - Patricia Barber / DuBose Heyward / Ira Gershwin / George Gershwin
08/29 18:17:34 Debug: [prebuffer] sleeping in read -- this isn't good
08/29 18:17:34 Debug: [prebuffer] sleeping in read -- this isn't good
08/29 18:17:34 Trace: [streamingmediafile] immediate read of https://streaming-std.qobuz.com/file at 5767168 length=315103818
08/29 18:17:35 Trace: [streamingmediafile] immediate read of https://streaming-std.qobuz.com/file at 6291456 length=315103818
08/29 18:17:35 Debug: [prebuffer] sleeping in read -- this isn't good
08/29 18:17:36 Debug: [prebuffer] sleeping in read -- this isn't good
08/29 18:17:36 Trace: [streamingmediafile] immediate read of https://streaming-std.qobuz.com/file at 6553600 length=315103818
08/29 18:17:37 Debug: [prebuffer] sleeping in read -- this isn't good
08/29 18:17:37 Debug: [prebuffer] sleeping in read -- this isn't good
08/29 18:17:37 Debug: [prebuffer] sleeping in read -- this isn't good
08/29 18:17:37 Trace: [streamingmediafile] immediate read of https://streaming-std.qobuz.com/file at 7077888 length=315103818
08/29 18:17:38 Info: [stats] 5396mb Virtual, 1187mb Physical, 426mb Managed, 0 Handles, 85 Threads
08/29 18:17:39 Trace: [S/PDIF] [Lossless, 24/192 QOBUZ FLAC => 24/192] [PLAYING @ 0:06/6:15] Summertime - Patricia Barber / DuBose Heyward / Ira Gershwin / George Gershwin
08/29 18:17:39 Trace: [streamingmediafile] immediate read of https://streaming-std.qobuz.com/file at 7602176 length=315103818
08/29 18:17:39 Debug: [prebuffer] sleeping in read -- this isn't good
08/29 18:17:40 Debug: [prebuffer] sleeping in read -- this isn't good
08/29 18:17:40 Debug: [prebuffer] sleeping in read -- this isn't good
08/29 18:17:40 Trace: [streamingmediafile] immediate read of https://streaming-std.qobuz.com/file at 7864320 length=315103818
08/29 18:17:40 Debug: [prebuffer] sleeping in read -- this isn't good
08/29 18:17:40 Trace: [streamingmediafile] immediate read of https://streaming-std.qobuz.com/file at 8126464 length=315103818
08/29 18:17:41 Debug: [prebuffer] sleeping in read -- this isn't good
08/29 18:17:41 Debug: [prebuffer] sleeping in read -- this isn't good
08/29 18:17:41 Trace: [streamingmediafile] immediate read of https://streaming-std.qobuz.com/file at 8388608 length=315103818
08/29 18:17:43 Trace: [HDA Intel PCH ALC1150 Digital] [raatclient] GOT [1311] {"samples":31490,"status":"Dropout"}
08/29 18:17:43 Trace: [HDA Intel PCH ALC1150 Digital] [raatclient] GOT [1311] {"samples":96000,"status":"Dropout"}
08/29 18:17:43 Trace: [HDA Intel PCH ALC1150 Digital] [raatclient] GOT [1311] {"samples":96000,"status":"Dropout"}
08/29 18:17:43 Debug: [prebuffer] sleeping in read -- this isn't good
08/29 18:17:43 Debug: [prebuffer] sleeping in read -- this isn't good
08/29 18:17:43 Debug: [prebuffer] sleeping in read -- this isn't good
08/29 18:17:43 Trace: [streamingmediafile] immediate read of https://streaming-std.qobuz.com/file at 8912896 length=315103818
08/29 18:17:43 Trace: [HDA Intel PCH ALC1150 Digital] [raatclient] GOT [1311] {"samples":96000,"status":"Dropout"}
08/29 18:17:44 Trace: [HDA Intel PCH ALC1150 Digital] [raatclient] GOT [1311] {"samples":96000,"status":"Dropout"}
08/29 18:17:44 Debug: [prebuffer] sleeping in read -- this isn't good
08/29 18:17:44 Debug: [prebuffer] sleeping in read -- this isn't good
08/29 18:17:44 Trace: [streamingmediafile] immediate read of https://streaming-std.qobuz.com/file at 9175040 length=315103818
08/29 18:17:44 Trace: [HDA Intel PCH ALC1150 Digital] [raatclient] GOT [1311] {"samples":96000,"status":"Dropout"}
08/29 18:17:45 Trace: [HDA Intel PCH ALC1150 Digital] [raatclient] GOT [1311] {"samples":96000,"status":"Dropout"}
08/29 18:17:45 Warn: [S/PDIF] [zoneplayer/raat] Too many dropouts (>3s dropped out in the last 30s). Killing stream
08/29 18:17:45 Trace: [S/PDIF] [zoneplayer/raat] too many dropouts. stopping stream
08/29 18:17:45 Trace: [S/PDIF] [Lossless, 24/192 QOBUZ FLAC => 24/192] [PLAYING @ 0:10/6:15] Summertime - Patricia Barber / DuBose Heyward / Ira Gershwin / George Gershwin
08/29 18:17:45 Trace: [S/PDIF] [zoneplayer/raat] Endpoint HDA Intel PCH ALC1150 Digital State Changed: Playing => Prepared
08/29 18:17:45 Trace: [HDA Intel PCH ALC1150 Digital] [raatclient] SENT [1313]{"request":"end_stream"}
08/29 18:17:45 Debug: [raat/tcpaudiosource] disconnecting
08/29 18:17:45 Warn: [zone S/PDIF] Track Stopped Due to Slow Media
08/29 18:17:45 Info: [S/PDIF] [zoneplayer] advance didn't change the track. returning short read
08/29 18:17:45 Info: [zone S/PDIF] OnPlayFeedback StoppedEndOfMediaUnnatural
08/29 18:17:45 Debug: [zone S/PDIF] _Advance
08/29 18:17:45 Trace: [zone S/PDIF] queue got oversized. trimming 1 items from start
08/29 18:17:45 Debug: [zone S/PDIF] Remove(1 items, for_replace=False)
08/29 18:17:45 Info: after removeall ordered count 5000 shuffle count 5000
08/29 18:17:45 Trace: [mlradio] [3] [music/mlradio] GetNextItem(1 / 25)
08/29 18:17:45 Trace: [mlradio] [3] [music/mlradio] returning 1 items for request of 1 items
08/29 18:17:45 Info: sleep 40ms after flush
08/29 18:17:45 Warn: [zoneplayer/raat] Error during streaming: System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
  at Sooloos.Broker.Transport.RaatZonePlayer+<>c__DisplayClass31_0.<_StartStream4>b__1 () [0x005e4] in <6cf6d5c4cc1b4d65ade01aaf022ed5b2>:0 
08/29 18:17:45 Trace: [HDA Intel PCH ALC1150 Digital] [raatclient] GOT [1311] {"status":"Ended"}
08/29 18:17:45 Trace: [HDA Intel PCH ALC1150 Digital] [raatclient] GOT [1313] {"status":"Success"}
08/29 18:17:45 Info: [audio/env] [zoneplayer -> stream] All streams were disposed
08/29 18:17:45 Info: [audio/env] [zoneplayer -> stream -> endpoint] All streams were disposed
08/29 18:17:45 Info: [S/PDIF] [zoneplayer] BufferingTrack == NextTrack during ClearQueuedMedia, setting _stop_on_next_track_transition
08/29 18:17:45 Trace: [S/PDIF] [Lossless, 24/192 QOBUZ FLAC => 24/192] [LOADING @ 0:00] Oughtta Be Happy by Now - Sara K. / Matthew Andrae
08/29 18:17:45 Debug: [query] Sooloos.Broker.Transport.TransportItem: 5001 dirty items. rebuilding query instead of re-sorting item-by-item (internaltype=TransportItem)
08/29 18:17:45 Debug: [query] Sooloos.Broker.Transport.TransportItem: 5001 dirty items. rebuilding query instead of re-sorting item-by-item (internaltype=TransportItem)
08/29 18:17:45 Info: ComputeSwimType(LimitToSeed=False, PerformerIds.Count=0, ComposerIds.Count=0)
08/29 18:17:45 Debug: [query] Sooloos.Broker.Transport.TransportItem: 5015 dirty items. rebuilding query instead of re-sorting item-by-item (internaltype=TransportItem)
08/29 18:17:45 Debug: [query] Sooloos.Broker.Transport.TransportItem: 5015 dirty items. rebuilding query instead of re-sorting item-by-item (internaltype=TransportItem)
08/29 18:17:45 Debug: [easyhttp] [2730] POST to https://www.qobuz.com/api.json/0.2/track/reportStreamingEnd? returned after 595 ms, status code: 200
08/29 18:17:46 Trace: [tidal/http] GET https://api.tidal.com/v1/tracks/40617106/playbackinfopostpaywall?countryCode=PL&audioquality=HI_RES&assetpresentation=FULL&playbackmode=STREAM => Success
08/29 18:17:46 Trace: [tidal/http] GET https://api.tidal.com/v1/tracks/2356340/playbackinfopostpaywall?countryCode=PL&audioquality=HI_RES&assetpresentation=FULL&playbackmode=STREAM => Success
08/29 18:17:46 Trace: [tidal/http] GET https://api.tidal.com/v1/tracks/40617106?countryCode=PL => Success
08/29 18:17:46 Info: [S/PDIF] [zoneplayer] Playing: http://sp-pr-fa.audio.tidal.com/mediatracks/CAEaKRInMGM1MjRlNmRmMWZiMDQ4Yzk4MDAxYmUzNzkzMDVlZjRfNjEubXA0/0.flac
08/29 18:17:46 Trace: [tidal/http] GET https://api.tidal.com/v1/tracks/2356340?countryCode=PL => Success
08/29 18:17:46 Info: [S/PDIF] [zoneplayer] Queueing: http://sp-pr-fa.audio.tidal.com/mediatracks/CAEaKRInNWJiNGEyOWZiYTI2NmFhNDRkZjNjZGEyNTExMTc3NTNfNjEubXA0/0.flac
08/29 18:17:47 Info: [S/PDIF] [zoneplayer]     Open Result (Playing):Result[Status=Success]
08/29 18:17:47 Info: [S/PDIF] [zoneplayer] Starting playback

The issue does not occur with the MacBook laptop being used as the core server, which means that there is a roon / network / lampi conflict somewhere. The Problem with the symptoms you describe is that I do not use the spdif output, so I am not sure why that would show up in the logs. Please advise. The lampizator is an amazing machine and I cannot use it with roon.

Apologies for not being precise - I cannot use the lampi to stream Qobuz hires files via roon. That is the situation that causes roon to reboot.

Hello @nuwriy, I think James doesn’t use S/PDIF, but USB endpoint. All files from hard drive, NAS and most from qobuz are working fine. The problem didn’t occur before in different network which indicates where the problem came from. The issue only appears while playing high-res files from qobuz (the roon core restarts). I’m out of ideas what it could be but I’m pretty sure it’s network related. We can try installing Roon ROCK but I don’t think it would change anything. Hoping you can find the reason. Never had such problems with Lampizator unit.
Best Regards
Lampizator

Hi @James_Harvey,

When using the Lampizator as a Core machine are you able to play to the output of the Mac okay (instead of the USB output)?

Can you try lowering the streaming quality of Qobuz by going to Settings > Services > Qobuz and then play to the USB endpoint? Is there any change after doing so?

Hello,
while lowering the stream quality to 44 all works fine.

Roon - any comments here? I can’t use Qobuz hires streaming - roon reboots every time I try to stream above 44 (and sometimes at 44). Thanks.

Any comments or thoughts? Anything??

It looks like you might have dropped thru the cracks.

Tagging @support for this, but it’s Sunday in a large part of the world.

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