Can you sort albums by Album Artist?

I much prefer to sort my albums by Album Artist rather than Artist because of the way I tag things when ripping

I use the Album Artist field for the composer when ripping classical music (and the artist field for the orchestra, soloist etc)

For consistency I then have Album Artist and Artist the same for all non-classical music

I can’t see a way of sorting by Album Artist in Roon, which would be awkward (love it generally though). And if I sort by Composer I get all sorts of stuff for non-Classical albums

Thanks

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Roon is already sorting by Album Artist.

What I think you’re running into is the fact that by default, Roon replaces your metadata with its own, so the Album Artist in Roon isn’t the Album Artist from your tags.

The good news is, there’s an easy way to get things the way you want.

  1. Go to the Albums view
  2. Select All (ctrl-A or command-A)
  3. Click “Edit” in the upper right
  4. Tell Roon to prefer the Album Artist data from your files instead of the Album Artist data from our metadata service:

Then, Click Save and wait for Roon to think about it (there will be a spinner in the upper right to show progress.

Once this is done, your album artist strings should be used instead of ours. Then, when you sort the album browser by “Artist” it should use your tags.

FYI while we’re looking at this page, Roon doesn’t let you access that “Metadata Preference” tab unless you select >=2 albums. If you only want to adjust a single album, you’re forced to go into it and select all tracks before you can get to those settings. 1st-world problem, I know, but really, really annoying. Can this get fixed?

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I agree, that sounds wrong to me. This set of switches totally makes sense when only one album is selected. It’s on my list.

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And, while we’re basically on the same topic, there appears to be some kind of limit to how many albums you can adjust globally using the “Edit Fields” tab on the same screen. For instance, let’s say I want to change all my live albums’ album-type from ‘main’ to ‘other’ (wonky workaround to get that stuff out of the ‘main’ portion of an artist’s discography). So I sort albums on title (with my customized symbol for live as a prefix in front of the album title), but then when I highlight all the live albums & go to edit the “Edit Fields” tab is not there. I have to work backwards to find a smaller number-of-albums to highlight before Roon shows the “Edit Fields” tab. Can’t figure out what your ‘limit’ is, but maybe ~1000 albums? Anyhoo, I’ve got ~4000 live albums, so I find myself highlighting, scrolling, highlighting the ‘end point’, hitting edit (no worky), repeat process with fewer albums highlighted, hit edit, etc until I can see the “edit Fields” tab & do what I want to do. Same for attempting the inverse, i.e. highlight non-prefixed albums & globally change to ‘main’…

@Danny has alluded to vestigial ‘restraints’ from the Sooloos platform – perhaps that is the problem?

These aren’t vestigial restraints. It’s all about performance and responsiveness when fetching the data needed to drive that display. We’re trying to keep you out of situations where your database needs to work for more than a few seconds to display data to you, since this interrupts general usability of the app.

Brian

Many thanks, that’s done (or doing - still updating) the trick

I seem to have just lost about 2000 albums in the library, may come back to you on that one, will play first (it happened before I made the changes you suggested so not related)

Great service by the way

Phil

OK – if # of albums needs to be <=x in order to see the “edit Fields” tab, can you tell me what “x” is?

Sure: x = 1000