Chromecast Sample Rates?

That’s great.
This display we are talking about, it’s new with Chromecast?
AppleTV doesn’t have it?

Can somebody post a picture?

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Wow, just tried this with my Sony Bravia, looks and sounds superb! Downsamples everything to 24/48k but sounds good.
Terrible pic on a bright day but England 2 Sweden 0! :slight_smile:

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That’s just wonderful! Was about to propose that but you guys are always one step ahead. :wink:

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Terrific!
Now I really have to work on my artist pictures.

Some nice PMC speakers there! :+1:t2:

I’m itching to see if my Q Acoustics Q-TV2 soundbar copes with 24/48 from a first gen Chromecast, but I’ve gotta wait for my daughter to relinquish the damn iPad (to view the DSP option) :neutral_face:
Wonder if Roon plan to improve the App experience for iPhone? :thinking:

Get a tablet, phones are just too small to get the best of what Roon can deliver…

The entry level iPad is cheaper than a Roon lifetime subscription. It is excellent value for money (not often one can say that about an Apple product). Roon remote is effectively designed for it I think, with other remotes being slightly compromised in one way or another.

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Second hand Mini 3 here.

AppleTV has their own graphic design for now-playing data, so it shows some stuff, but not as nicely.

On Chromecast, we control the rendering, since a Chromecast is (more or less) an embedded web browser, so we did our own design for that screen in @RBM’s screenshot.

We have some work to do on this, too. Sourcing or crowd-sourcing better artwork will help, but the other thing we really need content-aware cropping/positioning of images on the display side.

We call this the “foreheads problem”:

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The idea is to identify the most salient portion of the image (red bounding box), the center-of-mass of salience (red dot), and any human faces (blue boxes) in the image.

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Using this extracted information, we can come up with cropping rules that avoid chopping faces in half and focus attention on the most interesting parts of an image.

The exact crop rectangles different from situation to situation, but the idea is that for each display scenario–whether it’s a 16:9-ish like Chromecast, or a square image in a grid, or a 4:3 on the artist browser, we’ll be able to intelligently crop the image for the situation.

Anyways–we have the computer vision/feature extraction part working well, but there is a lot of “plumbing” work involved in getting it deployed for real and then distributing the benefits to all the relevant places in the product.

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Impressive thinking.
Surprising places it takes you, the simple concept of browsing and playing music.

Ah, basterds! :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
Seriously though, that was about the saddest excuse of a :soccer:-game i’ve witnessed in quite some time. England deserved the win, no argument… The best of luck to the English in the next game!

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What is this “Sweden” you guys talk about?
Nerver heard of it.

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Thanks for the insight Brian. I am very interested in this display-only capability. My core will be near my TV system and it would be nice to be able to stream digital audio from my core to my preamp while the Chromecast creates a nice display on the screen. However as it stands now Chromecast devices cannot be grouped with other types of devices right? So the only way to have video on the Chromecast linked to a separate audio output is if that audio output is a Chromecast audio, which is only slightly better than the Chromecast. Correct me if I’m wrong but this means that you will be changing the system so we can group different types of outputs together no?

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As I read it @brian is suggesting that at some point we will be able to link a Chrome Cast video device as a non-Audio Zone to any other zone regardless of the protocol used by the other zone.

I would presume not having to sync the audio makes this feasible without expending tons of development resources.

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Also really happy to hear about display only casting planned, came here to ask about it. :+1:

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Yeah, exactly. That’s a fair description of the technical approach.

I’m not sure if we will use the “linking” or “grouping” terminology to describe this, or other words. The display technology exists (obviously), so most of the remaining work is about product presentation, making it simple/comprehensible, etc.

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I thought that might be the case but then if there is no sync that means the time counter will be either incorrect or disabled which reduces the usefulness of this feature to me.

No…it doesn’t mean that at all.

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Alright cool, can’t wait then. Thanks Brian.