But it does, to my set of ears and perception. I do have a reasonable understanding of how async usb audio works though, so the question youāre asking is relevant, and the core of this.
Something in the shape or form of the data flow to the DAC changes, but how does this affect the transformation from packets into an audio signal?
I donāt have the answer to that, but there are a lot of good thinking here, so i have my hopes that this can be verified by measuring something that correlates to the listening experience.
If the USB transfer mode is async, the target controls the flow of the data, so if the source did not honor that, youād get drops (buffer underflow) or āskipsā (buffer overflow). If the transfer was controlled by the source, then the DAC would have to adjust its clock to the source rate, and would have to use methods like PLL to reject jitter. That would be an unnecessary complication for USB. Measurements donāt show any difference in jitter response, so either the USB is still used in async mode, or the DAC rejects jitter very well, or the Piās USB clock is very good. Perhaps @David_Snyder knows how Diretta target uses the USB. I canāt make much sense of what they say on their site.
I agree, but I think that effort would not be justified at this point. Iām not saying Diretta is not changing the flow as they say they do, just that those changes donāt seem to matter.
If my understanding is correct, thatās Direttaās claim; not mine in any case. Otherwise, why would there be a need for smoothness in the packet transmission?
Jitter test is supposed to be quite sensitive to time domain variations. Even if inaudible, the FFT should reveal some differences, and I donāt see any.
Your Brain. We all not only hear differently due to individual physical reasons, we also perceive and process the sound differently due to inherent different memories and personal experiences.
Here is an article about the topic; ignore that article, however, you should follow the link in the article TO the originating article, and read it. Fascinating stuff.
Personally, I find that the visual cortex of the brain produces too much interference to actually ālistenā to music. I need darkness with closed eyes, to fully focus on the music Iām listening too.
A moderator is a volunteer and fellow enthusiast who will have views and experiences that may differ from yours. In agreeing to take on the task of moderation he doesnāt become a silent drone there to make life easy for you. Iād calm down. The rest of us will take you more seriously if you can deal with opposing criticism of which there may be a lot as there usually is in this type of discussion.
Yes, and that was a direct response to your question, but, meant in the same joking spirit of the question. So, let me put the full quote of what I was responding to, grinning face and allā¦
Besides, I clarified that short answer with little more fleshed out reasoning and then a link to the article/study from whence that answer was distilled, and gave an example from my personal experience in support.
Iām re-posted the direct link because I think it was pertinent to the discussion, and had gotten a bit lost.
Thanks for the links. Iāve read the first linked article (Iāll read the study later), and I think thatās also worth reading. I was thinking that one of @David_Snyderās points - that the perceived improvements of Diretta are not due to the novelty factor because it keeps sounding better the more you listen to it - might fit the pattern of ābrain burn-inā described there, but in Direttaās case, nothing actually changes in the sound signature, so thereās no acclimatization of the brain to something objectively different. In any case, it seems āour brainsā work in vastly more mysterious ways than networking protocols or USB connections.
If like me you are short sighted and usually wear glasses, you may find that you can hear much better with your glasses on. Whilst counter intuitive, to me it makes perfect sense. If the brain is working overtime trying to make sense of an out of focus world it is diverted from other tasks. Hearing and other senses do suffer without my glasses on, too many distractions. Critical listening is best done on headphones with eyes closed.
I was in touch with an electronics designer here in Sweden, to see if there was further tests to be suggested.
He supported my thesis that it is very difficult to find measurements that are qualitative, repeatable and first and foremost: That correlates with the listening experienceā¦
Anyways, a theory he suggested was that minute variations in periodicity (due to smoother power consumption) of the USB transfer actually could modulate the audio signal in the DAC, into the audible spectrum.
Well, you are looking at exactly that and see nothing of relevance, at least not with synthetic signals..
So the dilemma hasnāt changed, none of the measurements you are able to perform shows any significant differences whether with or without Diretta in the transfer. As a side note there are a fraction of audiophiles that would constitute that as absolute transparency, which is considered premium, in those circles!
So, still looking forward to if you and the kids have found any preference in listening!
AceRimmer
(Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast!)
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