Do I have to download to a computer?

Maybe I’m reading too much into what the OP writes about wanting to eliminate computers. I for one understand his sentiment. Requiring a -general purpose- computer to run Roon (for now) is a deal breaker for me as well. I just don’t want them involved in my music enjoyment. There are plenty devices that run Linux that I wouldn’t call a computer (e.g. a Tesla Model S).

Aha – wait until your Tesla gets hacked… :slightly_smiling:

Other options may come. For now, it is a regular computer. But I wrote about how I configured a NUC to work as simply and reliably as a 1970s FM radio: it contains its own storage (SSD) so it doesn’t require a NAS, it has a network or USB connection to the audio system (or wifi if you prefer), no screen or keyboard or mouse, and when you turn it on it automatically starts a Roon server. I always leave it on (draws 20 W). It has built-in Windows anti-malware. The NUC is smaller than a stack of 5 CD jewel cases, very neat.

(Ok, setting it up was a bit complex, as you can see in my description, but following the description is easier than making it up. And maybe some day somebody will sell a pre-configured box like that.)

The Tesla won’t move without it’s computer, the Aeries won’t send the music data to your dac without it’s computer. The Aeries is just a small specialized computer.

I don’t put -general purpose- computers by my audio equipment either, I have a SOTM USB card in mine to reduce that possible noise. Though right now I’m using my Squeezebox Touch which again is a smaller computer and works better size wise in my environment right now.

Gary, if you are going to have an Aries at your audio equipment, you don’t need to audiophile up a computer to serve the music to it. Any computer barring it has enough power to run RoonServer or Core will do. But you will need at least that one -general purpose- computer someplace.

Yes, I get it. Lots of things use computers use computers under the hood. And yet, I doubt many people talk about forgetting where they parked their computer. My point, and I believe @Gary_Francis’ point, is that if my music system is going to include computers (oops forgot, it already does, I have a Meridian MD600 NAS and an 818v3), I want them to behave like an appliance designed for enjoying music. On/off switch, not much else. It’s a personal choice about how I much I want to deal with general purpose computers

The potential for noise is a concern for a separate thread. I bet your setup sounds great and @AndersVinberg’s too. It just wouldn’t be for me.

With Roon all you need is a general purpose computer somewhere on your network running Roon or RoonServer. The Roon computer can be in another room or in a closet. You just turn it on and let it run 24/7. You pretty much never have to interact with it. You can also get something that uses very little power that will do the job. That’s pretty appliance like if you ask me.

After that you can use a device similar to the Aries and/or a touch screen device for control and playback. So I’m not sure I really understand your issue. Yes, you need at least 2 computing devices. But you only have to have one that you interact with in any meaningful way, and that one can definitely be appliance like.

Where can I get info on that system Anders?
20w standby sounds good.
I take it that would be fanless.

Information is in this thread: Simplified Roon configuration: no network or NAS.

I bought a standard NUC and memory and SSD storage at Amazon. Hardware was easy to assemble. Installed Windows 10, then did some tinkering for the automation.

The NUC has a fan. There are fanless equivalents available at Amazon and elsewhere (@Andybob uses a BRIC). At the time the fanless machines didn’t have Intel’s latest chip (5i5), probably do today. The fan is not audible, but I want to get rid of it so I will transplant the innards into a fanless case. Should be a fun afternoon project.

The 2.5 TB SSD was over half the cost. You can get less if you don’t need that much; I currently use less than 1 with about 1,300 albums, some high res, most CD.

Fixed it for ya! :smiley:

I also use a Brix as some models have S/PDIFout - which is what I use. I personally do not like using USB; my DAC’s USB input is restricted to 24/96 while I get 24/192 over S/PDIF ( yes, including toslink optical), so I’m using S/PDIF.

Yup, BRIX just runs. I use a 120Gb mSATA drive for the OS (about to install a Linux partition) and a 1Tb SSD for music (just over half full with 1100 Redbook FLAC albums).

The BRIX does have a fan and HQP closed form and ASDM 7 turns it on. I may stick it in a closet for that reason.

I am using an Aries too and just installed the Roon server on a NUC. I am wondering for my current situation, is the Aries really necessary or should I just install the full Roon on the NUC and connect my USB DAC to the NUC rather through the Aries now.

All equipment are within the same LAN now

The Aries isn’t necessary but it may be desirable. It separates the noisy NUC from your DAC. If you are using Wi-Fi to the Aries you can put the NUC next to your router, well away from your Hi-Fi. Try out each and see which you prefer.

Thanks Andrew. Agreed that there maybe some noise from the NUC but can you help me understand more the exact function of the Aries on my case? I believe Roon not just do indexing and controlling but it does also act as a streaming server, am I correct in that sense?

Yes, Roon is serving the music and connecting to the Aries using RAAT. All the Aries is doing is transporting the audio stream from Wi-Fi to USB. It is quite good at doing that and has a nice low noise linear power supply. It’s not so much what it does, as what it doesn’t do. It is a galvanically isolated low noise network bridge.

Thanks Andrew for the quick reply. As mentioned, I am actually connecting everything thru LAN cables, I am wondering if it is worthy to get better isolation/ filtering for the USB side rather than keeping the Aries there which may eventually introduce more unwanted uncertainty though.

There’s really no substitute for trying the different configurations and listening to see which one sounds better for you.

[quote=“William_Ip, post:24, topic:8537”]
I am wondering if it is worthy to get better isolation/ filtering for the USB side rather than keeping the Aries there which may eventually introduce more unwanted uncertainty though.
[/quote]Try a cheap experiment - buy an ODROID C1 ($30), install Linux and Roon Bridge on it and connect it to your DAC via USB.

Thanks, may I ask what is Roon Bridge? I try to search the official site and seems not have anything too much details about it.

See here in the Knowledge Base for the Roon Bridge page.

William, Your Aries has an Ethernet wired input and USB out and it supports Roon’s RAAT protocol. You do not need a Roon Bridge. I would recommend connecting your Roon core computer by Ethernet cable to the Aries and locate the core computer out of your listing room. Wifi is for convenience for people without a wired network.
Jeff