If people were “making it up”, they’d be conscious of it, but the thing is expectation bias is subconscious. It’s like the placebo effect in medical research. The placebo effect itself is NOT “imagined” (people often do get better when they’re given placebo treatment!), only the CAUSE is “imagined”. The patients aren’t “making anything up”…
In this sense, everybody hears what they (subconsciously) want to hear. That’s one of the reasons why comparative listening tests are a lot less reliable than most people realize…
If placebo pills can have an effect similar to that of pain killers etc., why is it so hard to believe that similar things can happen during a listening test?
(BTW, placebo pills tend to be more effective if they’re large and taste bitter, so maybe that’s why certain “improvements” are especially “easy to hear” if the new switch or cable etc. is extremely expensive, or if certain DIY tweaks take a lot of time and effort…)
Are you thinking of a Timbre Uncombining [and] Radiator Damping setup? I’ve heard that this makes trumpets sound even more like trumpets whilst reducing friction in the signal path to offer greater transparency. This is achieved by adding noise from the spectral colours–blue (A-C), red (C-E), yellow (E-G)–, mixing and then flushing the unwanted brown waves from the signal path.
That’s it! If I remember correctly, you have to take care about the size of this rock, outherwise your system starts to suffer from Power Interference Load Excess Syndrome which causes noise to bleed through.
Wow, shark oil instead of snake oil. I can’t condone this. I am a passionate scuba diver and UW photographer. I prefer my sharks in the ocean instead of in little plastic bottles.
What is a deep sea shark anyway? I know of pelagic sharks and of littoral sharks, but deep sea sharks… Not a clue.
I’m sorry about the sharks. I’ve tried it with cod liver oil, but the sound is not the same!
Don’t ask me about sharks. I’m not an expert on that subject. I love them, they are fantastic creatures! But all I know about them is what I have seen in the documentary “Jaws” from Steven Spielberg.
Sharks are very misunderstood creatures. Spielberg’s documentary reflects the prejudice of days gone by. I suggest you watch the more recent and accurate documentary “Finding Nemo” by the exceptional oceanographers at Pixar.
I bought the ifi idefender 3.0 to cut 5v and use my beloved zonotone shupreme 1.2m usb cable into my Denadrips Terminator dac which make an obvious improvement … crispy and clear highs and more textured mids.
While the Terminator needs 5v for its usb inputs, I am using the Ideon 3R regenerator which is powered by a LPS and connected directly via a usd1 type A and B male adaptor since trials with usb cables saw drop in SQ … the Ideon 3R provides its own clean 5v minus any further usb cable with 5v power into the Terminator dac.
-It’s been loads of fun reading this thread over the past month since I received my etherREGEN “audiophile” switch. Now I consistently hear greater musical detail within a better-defined soundstage that allows me to easily follow individual instruments -even in complicated productions-, all of which makes for more realistic reproduction at home.
Enjoy the music! -that’s why I subscribe to Roon and am happy to be a deluded snake oil sipper despite the experts who know that I’m only fooling myself.
I scuba dived for years. Mostly on wrecks, some many miles out, off the east coast of Amerika.
I saw a shark, once. A bull shark that was rooting around in wreckage garbage and couldn’t have cared less about me.
OTOH, barracudas will hang around the down line in schools, so that most of the time you have to swim thru them. After that, they follow you around like dogs.
of or relating to an experiment to discover reactions to certain commodities, drugs, etc, in which neither the experimenters nor the subjects know the particulars of the test items during the experiments"
It isn’t when the listener has to choose between more than two choices.
@Bill_Turner
Who or what are you replying to? I didn’t “preach” anything. All I did was to explain that expectation bias isn’t about imagined effects, but rather about imagined causes. If someone believes something sounds better, it does sound better for that person. This doesn’t mean others can hear it, too. It doesn’t mean the opposite, either. That’s why statements such as “I hear what I hear” can be 100% correct AND not at all useful at the same time.
