Endless spinning squid on controller startup (ref#M4STC0)

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What’s happening?

· I am experiencing freezes or crashes

How can we help?

· I am experiencing freezes or crashes

Other options

· My Roon software won't start up

Describe the issue

Endless spinning squid every new controller startup

Describe your network setup

Unify Ubiquiti UDM Pro, Switch 23 PoE, 7 x AP Pros

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Hi-

Getting the endless spinning jellyfish of doom. It seems to be related to Live Radio Stations - I think.

If I look in logs, I get the following:

03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [library] endmutation in 11ms
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [music/query] performing album query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [music/query] query returned 4535 Sooloos.Broker.Api.AlbumLite(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [music/query] performing tag query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [music/query] query returned 2 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Tag(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [music/query] performing tag query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [music/query] query returned 2 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Tag(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [music/query] performing genre query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [music/query] query returned 1261 Sooloos.Broker.Api.GenreLite(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [music/query] performing label query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [music/query] query returned 1691 Sooloos.Broker.Api.LabelLite(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [library] endmutation in 11ms
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [music/query] performing country query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [music/query] query returned 159 Sooloos.Broker.Api.CountryLite(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [library] endmutation in 12ms
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [library] endmutation in 11ms
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [library] endmutation in 12ms
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] performing channel query
03/11 14:12:06 Trace: [Broker:Media] [radio/query] query returned 3 Sooloos.Broker.Api.Channel(s)

Millions of times in a row, 100’s of times each 100th of a second. It’s unending, no wonder it’s not responsive.

I deleted all my live radio stations, and it behaved for a while. I tried cleaning up my library (though I don’t think that’s related). If I restart the core, and just use a single controller, I can get it to behave for a while. But then if I go to a different controller, this behavior (and the same pattern in the logs) seems to start again. So if I restart the Roon Server (ROCK) and just use my iPhone, it seems like I can get it to behave for a while. But then it starts up again unexpectedly. When I can get it to play, it seems to continue just fine (especially if it’s local) even if the interface is unresponsive / jellyfish. Sometimes it can’t load the next song from a Qobuz or Roon playlist for a long time when the interface is unresponsive.

I’m at my wits end. I tried to find other support threads which had the same issue, but none of them seem to have resolved.

This one seems similar, and doesn’t seem to have been solved:

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Ok, perhaps I fixed this. I reinstalled Roon (early release) on my Mac. I’d done that last night, and it didn’t seem to make a difference. But now it has been stable for 20 minutes. More later.

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Hey @Johnny_Ooooops,

Thanks for the updates - and nice work performing a fresh reinstall! Let us know how things perform over the next few days and we’ll keep monitoring the thread for your results. :+1:

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Thanks @Benjamin - will do, and appreciate the quick response. It stymies me why this multiple controller thing can result in the core having endless requests, but I’ll take it if it’s well behaved!

Would be great if there were some kind of error trapping for "constant repeated requests’ and other common patterns that would ‘phone home’ to you guys instead of requiring support requests - but that may be too much to ask :slight_smile:

More soon!

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We’ll mark this one as solved @Johnny_Ooooops , but should the issue return please let us know and uncheck the solution checkbox, thanks!

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