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[danny (Danny Dulai)]

@Thomas_Christ

Roon supports older Linn DS, which AFAIK only support UPNP

They also support Songcast, which is the mechanism we use on old Linn devices.

UPNP is not supported, nor will it ever be. This is a matter of our team being philosophically opposed to the technology. If the use case requires UPNP, Roon won’t work for it.

@Thomas_Christ

the real Roon customers are vendors paying for “Roon Ready” badges

You couldn’t be more wrong here. We do not charge for Roon Ready certification. Also, we dug in our heels about UPNP for 2 years prior to having the Roon Ready program.

@Thomas_Christ

• Sure, why should you invest in Roon ready when every simple UPNP works… Unacceptable service for paying customers.

I answered this here, long ago:

What's wrong with UPnP?

@AndersVinberg: We are working with Bel Canto to get RAAT into their devices. Our contempt for UPnP basically comes down to a few things: UPnP requires codec support on the endpoint, therefore making different endpoints support a different subset of whats out there. This also puts a burden of patent licensing on the manufacturer. UPnP has no good solution for streaming proprietary/unsupported/new formats UPnP creates an ecosystem of lowest common denominator support UPnP lacks “a brain”, like…

As for being a paying customer, did you pay for Roon thinking it supported UPNP? Did we do something to make the impression that UPNP was supported?