How does Tidal justify the $19.99/ month price for high res??? Amazon, Apple and Quboz offer the same for about half the price, or less.
While I did not agree with the MQA price, I could understand it as Tidal was the only purveyor of MQA. Now that Tidal is providing the same high res FLAC as everybody else, their high price makes little sense.
Tidal should actually raise their price for all the MQA haters now that they are replacing the terrible MQA with superior high res flac. I pay $120 per year through Best Buy.
I see Tidal on a downward path, atm. Unclear communication is a marketing sin. From the outside, it looks as if they themselves donât exactly know what their future will be.
Tidal subscriptions are no longer listed on the Best Buy website. It will be interesting to see what happens at renewal time.
Sounds like a rhetorical question to me.
How does any company justify the price of itâs products and/or services?
Some will ask âHow does Apple justify the price of an iPhone?â
Someone with a limited interest in music will ask âWhy did you pay for a Roon if you still need to provide your own source of music?â
They will probably add âI can stream Spotify for freeâ.
Personally my one and only reasoning has always been: is that product or service worth it to me? If I think it is, I buy it or subscribe to it. If I think itâs not, I donât and look for something else.
The advantage of a subscription is that you donât have to go all-in and can step away if you feel it is no longer worth it to you. The disadvantage is that you will pay more in the long run.
Time will tell if Tidal can keep justifying their prices. I believe they already lowered them once. If they are loosing customers they will either adapt or disappear.
I guess it will be a wait and see what is going to happen.
I have been subscribed to Qobuz for 3 years now and on and off to Tidal for about the same time.
During this time I have seen Qobuz lowering its prices once. But Tidal HiFi Plus has always been 20 Euro per month. We donât seem to get discount options like the Best Buy one here in the Netherlands.
Is it worth it for me? I quite like MQA and watching music videos next to listening to them. So for me itâs a yes.
However if I were just interested in listening to music and couldnât care less about MQA then it would be quite a different story.
Then Qobuz would fit my needs just fine. And for 150 Euro per year. Or 12,50 per month.
On this forum, streaming services are judged by the difference in sound quality of their offer, or rather by the impression of a difference. This is to be expected, given that Roon is a unified interface. A streaming service is more than that. Itâs all the functionality thatâs offered, and from this point of view Tidal is a top-quality offering: Tidal Connect, cutting-edge playlists, very good discovery functions, in particular My Daily Discovery. More expensive than Qobuz, but thatâs acceptable; talking about percentages doesnât make much sense, as weâre talking about small sums (1 to 2 coffees per month).
Tidal pay the artistâs more than any of the other streaming providers with the possible exception of Napster. A legacy of performer ownership. It shouldnât be hard to recognise that is where your money is going. It is possible for really big artists to negotiate higher payments but on average Tidal pays three times the average rate with Spotify holding the position of least payments and dragging that average right down.
Long live TIDAL !!!
How can we justify getting nearly 100 million tracks and have a vast library of different labels and genres for just 9.99 or 12.99 a month. When video streaming has limited options and we have to pay for multiple services to get content from different studios.
I am with Darko on this that music streaming in any guise is the bargain of the centuryâs and it the lower prices we are getting away with daylight robbery. We are pulling revenue away from those that make it and affecting their ability to make a living because we want it all we want it now but donât want to pay an honest price for it.
I am guilty here currently of going for the cheapest option I can get but I think Tidals got it right, charge more, give artists a bit more and itâs not a ride to the bottom. If there was a video equivalent of any music streaming platform you would be paying through the nose for it.
Considering how much we pay on kit and som on just a server I donât think 19.99 is asking too much and it certainly is justified for many reasons.
If there was an option to pay more, with the additional funds being distributed to artists, Iâd take it.
A month of Tidal Max costs less than what I paid for a single CDâŚ. 2 decades ago.
Qobuz pays artists nearly 3.5 times more than Tidal. .013 vs .043 per stream.
Streaming in general is HORRIBLE for the vast majority of artists. If you want to support artists, buy their CD or record. Or downloads from BandCamp.
Thatâs what max/Hifi plus does. They have the regular tier below which is cheaper and not hires or MQA masters, or have they ditched it now?
Yes. Thereâs a lower tier.
I meant Iâd be willing to pay more than $19.99 which is what Max costs for me.
Setting Best Buy aside, Tidal charges $19.99 for what their competitors charges $10 to $12, or less.
High Rea once was $20 across the board until Apple and Amazon quickly blew that up. Quboz adjusted their prices. Tidal never did.
Now that they no longer have to pay MQA, hopefully Tidal will see the light.
How old is that information? This is from April 2023.
According to a report from Producer Hive, Tidal is the only major streaming platform to average more than $. 01 per stream. It is far and away the industry leader in getting artists paid. Only Qobuz can compete with Tidal when it comes to audio quality, and Tidal is in a league of its own for artist payouts.
Tidal vs Qobuz Info is from May, 2023 and widely published.
The key is Qobuz has such a smaller subscriber base that it is not considered âmajorâ.
But Qobuz pays .043 vs Tidalâs .013. I think French law has influence over Qobuz paying a fair price.
Amongst the âmajorâ services (ie Amazon, Spotify and Apple), Tidal does pay more.
Scroll down to see the chartâŚ
Qobuzâs level of payment has nothing to do with french law. If Qobuz seems to pay more, itâs probably because thereâs less listening (low number of subscribers), more listening to classical music and jazz with longer tracks. In the end, most artists earn more (but too little) on Spotify and Tidal than on Qobuz.
