Wrong tag display I have an album (Handel's trio sonatas op. 2 and op. 5) that is displayed completely incorrectly in Roon. Some of the movement titles are wrong, the title of the work is ‘Trio Sonata op. 2 no. 1’, except for those where it says ‘Concerto grosso op. no...’ or something else that has no place here. I have checked the tags in the files several times and they are OK. I have also deleted all the files from the library directory several times and cleaned up the library, but when I copy the files back, I find the same nonsense again. I would really like it if Roon would just display the data I entered and not anything else. But apparently this is not possible because the corresponding option has no effect. So what can I do to ensure that the individual works and tracks are displayed correctly? Can I completely reset such a directory so that Roon can no longer think it knows better than me what I want and need?
Consider reporting bad metadata in Metadata or provide a correct set for MusicBrainz so all can benefit from corretions.
Then it is not the corresponding option – try and use the correct option instead. Your issue is most likely related to multi-part compositions (and the fact that they don’t use track titles).
Maybe also reread your previous thread, it seems it is related to the same or at least a very similar issue:
Yes, it is identified. At least there is no »unidentified«.
I set the metadata manually, but this makes no difference. Now I have a progress: The sonatas op. 5 have now all the title »Sonata op. 5 Nr. 1« although there are 7 different titles in the metadata (Nr. 1-7). I can’t find any place where this »op.5 Nr.1« is written. Just for the first sonata. The others have the correct name.
You are right, this is an old problem I never could resolve. The best solution would be probably a better software. But where can I find it?
Hi @Werner_Hintze,
Thanks for reaching out about this issue! Could you provide a screenshot of your metadata settings? You can find them by going to Roon Settings → Library → Import Settings.
This will help us better understand what might be happening. Looking forward to your response!
I’ll try again, perhaps I’m making myself too unclear (I don’t even understand what nonsense is going on)
In the screenshot you can see that three pieces are labelled “Trio Sonata op. 5,1”. These are of course different pieces, as you can see from the movement names. There is no entry "“Trio Sonata op. 5,1” anywhere in the metadata of these files. Not even in the first sonata, which is labelled “Sonata op. 5 no. 1 in A major”, which is why I can’t change it, because this entry doesn’t even exist. More precisely: it exists somewhere, but Roon won’t let me know where, making it impossible for me to correct it.
I would like Roon to simply take over my data. If I make mistakes, at least they are mine and I can fix them. It’s not possible this way, because nobody seems to be able to say where it’s coming from. (The problem does not only occur here, but also not everywhere, although the files are all tagged according to the same principle.) If this problem can be solved, I would move on to op.2, where the confusion is even greater. (Believe me, I have not tagged any movement of these sonatas with “Conertpo grosso op. 6”, and I could easily remove this entry if it were found in the metadata I can see.
One screenshot is to small. I made some more. Here they are.
But I don’t believe that it is an issue with these options. Once more: If I delete this folder and purge the library, the bring the folder back to the library, the result is as before. Even in the case that I change in the meantime something. For example »PART« or so.
There happened something. I didn’t do anything else as to copy the folder to the desktop, open the files with mp3tag, look for strange things, close the files without chaging anything and copying the folder back. In the meantime I let Roon clean the library and forced then a new import. This I did nearly 10 times in the last error, without any change. But now I see that the firat part ahs a new name. It is not the one I gave it, although it seems to b correct. Now the other sonatas (2-7) habe the title »Triosonate op. 5,2« which is ok only for the second one but not for the rest. And this label appears nowhere in the Metadata I can see and change.
You can see: It just doesn’t work. Roon is not able to read and display the corresponding metadata from the file. Sometimes, however, it works, albeit usually with strange results. In the case of the op. 5 sonatas, only the last three have identical titles, which is of course also rubbish, especially as it’s one I didn’t enter because Roon is too clever to do it the way the user wants, who has no idea The fact is, of course, that the last three sonatas from op. 5 have the same title and the same HWV number and are in the same key (although they have different movement names). I just don’t understand how brilliant that is. That’s unfortunate, of course, but it can’t be helped.
That behavior does look a bit odd. Are you able to send us these files for review to the below link and let us know once uploaded? I’m curious to see what metadata we see on our end. Thanks!
This behavior is not so odd, I have this problem frequently with Roon. This problem I resolved now by deleting all these files and importing the CD from scratch, than taggig all the files in the same manner. Now it works nearly, but… In the screenshot you can see that there remains a strange problem: The sonata No. 5 is divided. Because part 4 begins as a new work, and the next two parts come with the original title. This also a thing which happens quite often.
I would be really, really happy if I could have a single day with Roon without such strange problems that cost me an infinite amount of time and nerves. If I knew of a viable alternative, I would know what to do. But unfortunately…
Thanks for the update. It doesn’t look like you’ve uploaded any media yet, so let us know when you’re able to do so. Otherwise, we won’t be able to attempt in-house reproduction for further investigation.
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