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SongKong 10.3 Blur now available

This major release includes new task Auto Edit

Manual editing is useful for making changes to one album, but what about if we need to make an edit to many albums, then for this we have the new powerful Auto Edit tool. This actually comprises three tools Capitalizer , Find and Replace and Trim , and any or all of these tools can be applied to multiple fields in one go over your whole library if required

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SongKong 10.5 Star now available

This major release includes major improvements to the Match to One Album task plus other fixes and improvements.

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SongKong 10.6 Ultraviolence now available

Tthis is a major release that that can now access the live MusicBrainz database when required, has an important fix if you use Wav files and other improvements.

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Songkong 10.7 Gallipoli now available

This release includes a new Bandcamp Match task that can identify albums from the Bandcamp website. Bandcamp is the premier website for self- released albums with over 15 million digital albums, the vast majority of these are not listed on the MusicBrainz or Discogs sites.

Bandcamp Match is a new task that works in a similar way to the existing Fix Songs task, and can be used on multiple albums at a time, in fact can be run over your whole music collection whatever its size.

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SongKong 10.8 Parade now available

Includes a new task Fix Charset Encoding and some major improvements to the Rename Files task plus other fixes and improvements.

SongKong 10.9 Stumpwork now available

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@paultaylor with SongKong is there a simple way to be able to get the correct original releae dates for my collection. A lot of mine have been rereleases and when ripping they used these dates and dont have original release dates so when I sort by years outside of Roon its a mess. Also want to add in any missing Album Artist tags as I know these are missing on a good chunk of albums. i have the demo of the app but have to say dont find it very intuitive to use.

Hi, yes it certainly can

Run Fix Songs task with Roon profile and they will add original release date based on the earliest version of the release found to the Original Album Year field (e.g ORIGINALRELEASEDATE in Flac). But you can also enable the Use Original Release Date option and that will then use that date for the Year field (DATE in Flac) as well.

If that is the only thing you want to change add all other fields to the Never Modify or add these fields

I’ve tried to make it very simple but I think the issue for some users is that SongKong takes a different approach to most taggers. With traditional taggers we load our music into the tagger then use multiple manual and possibly automated tasks to edit the data. But with SongKong we select the task first before loading any music, and ii is this approach that means we can run large SongKong on large music collections without issue, and we can provide web user interface as well as desktop interface.

Please see this article for a summary of this task based approach.

Tried it doesn’t seem to match 1500 tracks most of which already have tagged correctly via MusicBrianz Picard and have correct MusicBrainz ids.

Hi, that is not usual behaviour could you please run Create Support Files then I can check the results and tell you why that is and probably resolve issue.

It’s odd as some track of same album identified and others not. I’ll see what I can do when home.

Support files uploaded @paultaylor

Hi, late here but had a quick look

Of 32,824 songs we matched 31,395 to MusicBrainz album by SongKong

But also when I look at the existing metadata of your songs I dont think they were already matched to MusicBrainz with Ids. For example if I take the first album Blind mans Zoo by 10,000 Maniacs and look at the metadata added the MuscBrains Ids was added by SongKong

The existing metadata was very limited and did not include Musicbrainz Ids ?

Those maybe not, but all The Creedence Clearwater albums are and those all showed up in no matches but not all of the albums in some cases.

Some of my albums have missing Album Artist but only abut 350 everything else and they all get matched in Roon and Plex without any issue I only have a few classical comps that don’t. So this was a shock to see so many not match up.

It was a 96% match rate I have to say think that is extremely good result after running one task.

But there some seem to be an issue with the Credence Clearwater albums, not sure what but here are a few things could try:

  • Install Latest version of SongKong, you have older version
  • Uncheck the Only allow match if all tracks in album were matched option setting it back to its default to see if that makes a difference

A common issue preventing match is if you have track lengths that dont match the track length times of the matching MusicBrainz album. If any of your track lengths differ by more than 10 seconds we dont allow album match because that indicates likley to be the wrong version. But you can override this on an an album by album basis using Match To One Album task (but need latest version). Select one album folder and Match to One Album enter the Musicbrainz url and check the Force allow low scoring option.

And/Or if you email support@jthink.net one of these albums I can test it out at my end.

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Okay I think I see the issue, you have changed For songs already fully matched to Ignore so for songs already fully matched by Picard with Ids added SongKong will skip over these. If we take the first Creedence album Bayou Country and look at track 2 we can see it has all the Musicbrainz Ids

but if we look at track 1 we can see that although it has a MusicBrainz Recording Id and MusicBrainz Release Id it is missing the MusicBrainz Track Id

Looking at all the tracks, half have the neccessary ids and half dont, so because of the Ignore option half of the tracks are skipped and half are processed. So in this case it tries to find a matching album for four of the seven tracks, but because you have also set the Only allow match if all tracks in album were matched option it cannot find a match because it would need to match those 4 tracks to a 4 track album but the correct albums are 7 track albums.

I’m not sure if this is an issue caused by Picard or due to some addtional editing done by another tool but I suspect this is the problem for all the Creedence albums. It would make more sense to change both the options back to the default and then it should work.

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Okay will try that thanks for the help. Odd they have missing ids perhaps I didn’t save all tracks. It’s easy done in Picard. I will modify those and some of the others it’s not identified and try again.

They did have some ids but missed some, the easiest thing to do is just change the settings back on SongKong, i think that is all you have to do.

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@paultaylor

Just a thought, shouldn’t SongKong have its own forum thread. There is often a lot of interest but hidden in Sales

I dont think that is really up up to me.