Intermittent zone loss while streaming Tidal content (ref#UGVOY9)

What best describes your playback issue?

· Music stops playing unexpectedly

What type of Zone is affected by this problem?

· *Network Zones* are affected.

Is the affected network Zone connected with Ethernet or WiFi?

· Ethernet

Does the issue affect all file formats?

· The issue affects *multiple/all* file formats.

Does the issue happen with local library music, streaming service music, or both?

· *Only streaming* music is affected.

Please select the streaming service(s) with which you're encountering playback problems.

· TIDAL

Have you tried logging out and back in again to your streaming service in Roon Settings?

· Logging out and back in had no impact, the issue remains

What are the make and model of the affected audio device(s) and the connection type?

· Meridian 818v3 Reference Audio Core - ethernet connected

Describe the issue

Intermittent fault. When playing Tidal content the zone is lost and so the music stops playing. If I do nothing, the zone comes back (after perhaps 30-60 seconds)

Describe your network setup

Hyperoptic fibre to house > ZTE router > Netgear Orbi router > Network Acoustics Muon ethernet filter > Meridian ID41 (source)

Hey @Ian_Tollett,

Thanks for taking the time to write in and share your report! It’s good to see on the community again.

A few follow-up questions for you:

  1. Does this happen no matter the endpoint? For example, if you play to the system output of your remote device, or mobile device, does the same issue occur?
  2. If you simply your network setup, and connect your Nucleus directly to your router, bypassing all other network gear, do you still experience the same issue?

As a next step, if the issue persists after the above, could you please take note of the date, time, and name of track playing, we’ll enable diagnostic mode to review further.

We’ll be on standby for your reply! :raised_hands:

  1. It has happened with other endpoints as well (Meridian MS200 hard-wired to an Orb satellite that is WiFi connected to the Orbi router.
  2. I will check.

Hi @Ian_Tollett,
Did simplifying your network help with your zone losses?

So far it seems more stable, but I need to do more testing.

My daughter reports another dropout while I was away (so I don’t have any details). I will keep a close eye on things.

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If you can get the time and the song playing from her we can look into logs for that event.

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What best describes your playback issue?

· Music stops playing unexpectedly

What type of Zone is affected by this problem?

· *Network Zones* are affected.

Is the affected network Zone connected with Ethernet or WiFi?

· Ethernet

Does the issue affect all file formats?

· The issue affects *multiple/all* file formats.

Does the issue happen with local library music, streaming service music, or both?

· *Both streaming and local* *library* music are affected.

Do you encounter any playback errors with the "System Output" Zone?

· I don't have a System Output available, but I'd like to keep troubleshooting

How is the affected Zone connected to your RoonServer machine?

· Network - Ethernet

Which network audio protocol is the Zone using with Roon?

· Meridian

Does the device show up at all in Roon Settings -> Audio?

· No, it does not show up there

Does the device play audio from another source when using the same connection?

· The device has no problems with another audio source

Have you checked that Roon is whitelisted in any firewalls?

· I've checked the firewall and the issue remains

If the device has multiple output options, do the other options work as expected?

· Only one output type is affected while the other output type works as expected

Is the device using the latest firmware as per the manufacturer?

· Firmware is up-to-date but the issue remains

What are the make and model of the affected audio device(s) and the connection type?

· Meridian 818v3 Reference Audio Core - ethernet connected

Describe the issue

Please check ref#UGV0Y9 - exactly the same issue reoccurring

Describe your network setup

Meridian 818v3 Reference Audio Core - ethernet connected

Hi @Ian_Tollett,

Thank you for revisiting this post. We’ve merged it with your originally thread accordingly.

From what we can tell in diagnostic logging, the ID41 Meridian Zone begins to report sample dropouts whenever there is bandwidth stress on the network. In most cases, the audio stream seems to recover gracefully; in one instance during the logged period, however, the dropouts accumulate sufficiently to stop the audio stream.

Since you mentioned you have an Orbi mesh network, please make sure you have followed the additional steps in the bottom half of this article for enabled multicast forwarding and IGMP snooping in the Orbi access points/mesh nodes:

Thanks for the speedy reply. I have unchecked “Disable IGMP Proxying” and rebooted the Orbi router. I don’t have any manned switches. I’ll see how it goes.

ID41 just disappeared as audio zone (13.58 GMT).

17.19 GMT Saturday 21st - ID41 lost as zone while trying to play Everywhere by Fleetwood Mac.

Started working again then cut out 17.36 while trying to edit queue.

17.27 GMT Sunday - different zone cutting out (iPhone playing directly from Roon app) - while playing English Teacher album “This Could Be Texas”.

Tidal problem?