Lumin D2... Could it be a perceivable upgrade in sound quality?

(Peter Lie) #101

My previous comment on DSD upsampling (applicable to A1 / T1 / D1 / D2) is here:

I’ll leave the questions to other users to comment. There are a few related posts right above yours.

(Martin Kelly) #102

As per Peter’s post above, I have tried upsampling to DSD by the Roon Core/Nucleus, to be ‘fed’ as DSD to my A1.
I think there is a noticeable improvement in SQ doing it this way, but I think any perceived benefits may be system, and even source-file dependant.
I’d be happy to hear how you find it :grinning:

#103

…and perhaps also mood dependant! I seem to prefer DSD for relaxed headphone listening and PCM on my speaker setup…the only small fly in the ointment for me is the click moving between the formats (which unfortunately is more irritating over headphones).

#104

@wklie, Peter, could I please just confirm the output voltage on the D2 XLR outputs? Thanks.

(Peter Lie) #105

D2 / D1 / S1 / A1 / T1: 4V rms on XLR, 2V rms on RCA.

X1 and T2 are different.

#106

Thanks very much!

#107

I’m looking at getting the Lumin D2 to replace my exaSound e20 mkii DAC and exaSound PlayPoint renderer streaming from a QNAP NAS. I use Roon with Tidal and my DAC does not do the final unfold of MQA files. As much as I like my exaSound units, especially the PlayPoint, it annoys me that I can only use it with their own DAC. I like the thought of an all in one unit like the D2, that I can add a DAC to in the future if I wanted to. I am feeding them through a DSPeaker anti-mode 2.0 > Simaudio i7 integrated amp > Anthony Gallo Ref 3.5 speakers. Can anyone advise if this would provide any noticeable improvement in SQ?

(Peter Lie) #108

You may use the balanced XLR analog output of D2. For connecting to an external DAC it outputs digital audio to BNC-SPDIF but not to USB audio.

T2 can output analog, or digital signal to BNC-SPDIF or USB audio.

We have customers using Lumin and Simaudio amplifiers together.

#109

The Sbooster MK II Linear Power supply and the connector kit arrived for the D2 today. It’s a nice piece of kit, and includes all of the hardware and tools needed for the upgrade. It’s a pretty easy install with clear directions: remove the cover, unplug the old power supply from the Lumin circuit board, remove the internal power supply, and remove the old IEC connector. Then screw the new IEC connector into the D2, plug into the Lumin circuit board, and pop the cover back on. The Sbooster Linear power supply then plugs into the new IEC connector, and you turn on or off the Lumin using the power button on the Sbooster. Took me 20 min as I am always slow and careful.

Only odd thing was a need to snip one wire that connects the Lumin power switch to the old IEC - while the stock power switch remains, the IEC comes out, hence the need to snip the wire. This means if you need to reinstall the old power supply, you’ll have to get out your soldering iron and some heat shrink. The older D1 didn’t have this requirement and was completely plug and play.

The stock Lumin switching power supply is tiny compared to the large case of the Sbooster that is housing a large toroidal ps and capacitors. The DC cable from the circuit board to the Sbooster is nice, and the Sbooster features a standard IEC connector so you can use your favorite power cord (I had a Cardas Golden Reference unit on hand). Everything about the Sbooster is polished and it looks like it could have come from Lumin.

Sbooster recommends 40 hours of burn in, so I am not forming any strong opinions. I couldn’t do an A/B comparison, but spent a bit of time listening to my 5 favorite review tracks before the switchover.

At this stage, let’s just say the D2 is making wonderful sounds with more observed authority, especially on the low end. I’ll comment more once I’ve had more time, but so far it’s quite lovely. The stock D2 is no slouch either, so this will be fun to hear in week.

I know Lumin thinks highly of its switching power supply, and I certainly heard nice things through the D2, but I do think the upgrade is a positive step forward, and I am hoping it brings the same performance as the highly regarded D1 and Sbooster combination.

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(Peter Lie) #110

Looking forward to your further report on this.

I’d like to remind other users that any Lumin that needs to be shipped back to repair has to have original parts inside and intact.

(Martin Kelly) #111

IMO ‘snipping wires’ and soldering bits inside a perfectly-formed Lumin is utter sacrilege! :worried:

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#112

Yep, I fear that without plug and play solutions this could be considered an expert-only tweak…

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(Martin Kelly) #113

I just wouldn’t do it myself?
I trust Peter and the rest of the team over at Lumin to produce the best player they can, budget permitting.
Rather than pull-apart a D2, why not just step-up to a T2, etc?
I’m not criticising those who do these things - everyone to their own, and all - but I think you would have to be convinced of any such improvements before using the wire cutters! :thinking:

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#114

I do agree…
I also trust Hudson, I always found improvements with PSU so I cannot doubt of this…
But to my experience these have always been “by design” upgrades.

In particular I’m speaking of Aires Mini PSU and the Musical Fidelity MX Vynl PSU.
Own both, both external, both seamless improvement. Both with cash-back option if snake-oil:upside_down_face:

I’m very happy of my D2 but, if I need soldering tools only to listen if I can improve it… I’d rather look elsewhere.

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