Melco D100 Ripping CDs

I use mp3tag for tagging in Windows (yes, it handles most codecs, including FLAC and WAV). But you shouldn’t need a tag editor to see your RG tags. I think you can drill down to tags within Roon. Assuming you added both TRACK and ALBUM RG tags, you should see 4 tags. An ALBUM gain and peak tag and a TRACK gain and peak tag.

And within mp3tag, you load the files, select them, right click and select “Extended Tags” and you’ll see all the tags and their values. See:
https://www.mp3tag.de/en/download.html

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Unfortunately or fortunately–depending on your perspective–both files sound exactly the same. But this should not come as a surprise given the irrefutable evidence.

PS. Done a bit of Googling at this is what you get in the Melco D100.

https://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Computer/Computer+Drives/BDR-206MBK

These subjectivist vs. objectivist arguments never get anywhere.

If someone says they hear a difference then there’s no point in raining on their parade, unless it’s to dissuade others from such a belief.

Neither side convinces the other, but I guess arguing is fun.

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Given they could get the same results with a 20 quid drive, and presumably they know it, I’m quite surprised they’ve gone for such a pricey component.

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This is the only reason I bother, because as you said: neither side convinces the other.

But I feel compelled to offer a counter-point for people new to the hobby are being swayed into spending unnecessarily out of uncertainty or doubt.

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I have to say that this thread has bucked the usual trend and has been civil and courteous and I think it’s been about presenting the facts rather than winning the “case”. People respond to all kinds of evidence in different ways.

A man with a conviction is a hard man to change. Tell him you disagree and he turns away. Show him facts or figures and he questions your sources. Appeal to logic and he fails to see your point. – Leon Festinger

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That’s a pretty nice drive.

Edit. Just to be clear the Pioneer BDR-206MBK.

I don’t mind seeing someone with money to burn spending it on something that does nothing. However, I don’t like seeing someone who can’t afford it wasting their money or that of their spouse and kids.

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It sure is… you can also go with their small/external drives and gain the same tech benefits (precise 24x CD reads) for $140.00, all in. Fast, quiet drive for CDs - it’s what I use.

https://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Computer/Computer+Drives/BDR-XS07S

Not to mention @Jacques_Distler’s erudite and uber technical presentation of the objectivist view.

As for the Pioneer drive you linked to, does it have this?
"MELCO branded circuit board is optimised from audiophile point of view to promise the highest quality transport and ripping of CD into N1. "

:smirk:

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Yes, but you really can’t buy one now anyway since they have been discontinued for awhile. I was just saying that the melco actually used a pretty good drive. That’s all.

And why go with the XS07S when the BDR-209MBK is 79.00 USD.

It is. Melco has put it into a very nice chassis which can be used as a CD transport too.

I wanted an external drive to use with my MacBook - that model is internal. And, I wanted their newest generation drive.

Yes, that image is from a teardown of the D100. The tailor-made circuit board sits behind the drive and uses Rubycon capacitors. From what I can see this provides SATA and USB interfaces.

Not necessarily cost-effective, but you can buy an internal drive and put it in an external case like one of these.

Lest anybody be convinced that the case has been proven irrefutably, I continue to maintain that there is a clearly audible difference between my Unitiserve and my D100 rips, in favour of the D100, in my system.
I am not imagining it. Over the coming months, I hope that one or two of the participants in this topic, who have been my guests in the past, will hear this for themselves. If anybody else would like to hear it at first hand, they are very welcome.
Meantime my re-ripping continues apace, and I am not somebody who readily squanders the precious commodity of time.

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I’m confused. I thought that earlier in this thread, it was reported that you could only correctly identify which file was which 1 out of 4 times in a blind test. And that this was done on your own equipment. Quoted below.

You may be confused, but so am I. I set out in good faith to inform others of what I have discovered in my system, and which continues to be self-evident to me.
Perhaps naively, I agreed to participate in a process over which I had no control, which has apparently ‘shredded’ my position.
The most important thing to me in life is truth, and the truth is that I am listening to my music library as never before rendered due to re-ripping it as earlier described.
I don’t care whether anyone believes me, but I wish they would at least try it without bias.

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I’m just curious. How much did you spend for your first ripping device and how much did you spend for your last ripping device?

The original files I got from David where the same level in Roon and Roon analyses them the same giving them the same dr and volume levelling. In Audacity they where exactly the same levels. No idea how they played back in any other software and if any replay gain was added but I doubt it was.

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