Naim muso 2nd gen roon ready

(DSG) #1

:grinning:

Not price info though

(Martin Webster) #2

£1,299 ($1,599, €1,499)

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(Tony) #3

Muso 2 is also about to get Airplay 2. Airplay 2 was announced by Apple in 2017 and released to IOS in mid 2018!

(DSG) #4

Current Muso’s have had airplay 2 since Nov 18. There was quite a gap between apple announcing airplay 2 and any manufacturer supporting it. New muso’s look to be based on same software streaming platform as other Naim equipment, hence airplay mention.

From my perspective being both roon ready and supporting chromecast is the big news. Airplay not high res and have read that it struggles with multiroom.

(Prashant Sistla) #5

Ugh I really hope they are able to make the original muso Roon ready. Right now I have an SB Touch -> DAC -> analog in of the muso for roon.

I don’t know that I am willing to shell out $1600+ to upgrade for a cleaner setup.

(DSG) #6

Back in 2017 I asked Naim about Chromecast/ Roon plans on Muso QB. They replied saying they had no plans.

Reading between the lines (so not actual facts) I believe that Naim is moving toward a single software streaming platform derived from as that used on Uniti and XS and this is already Roon Ready.

My guess would be that a new QB based on the same platform will be available at some point.

(Robert Brown) #7

We’ve got our Muso 2nd Generation. I can confirm it is Roon Ready, Airplay 2, Chromecast, Bluetooth and sounds substantially better than the previous version. HDMI is a nice addition too.

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(DSG) #8

Colour me green!! Are you able to confirm @Martin_Webster’s post on prices? No amazing introductory offers :laughing:

Agree the HDMI is a nice addition. I guess the one things I’m surprised about is that there is no option to add the DAB/FM module available for the Atom/Star/etc.

(Robert Brown) #9

It is priced at £1299. A jump from the previous generation’s price, but a solid improvement warrants it.

(Tony) #10

It is using Focal speakers too (they own Naim) so even if nothing else changed it would have sounded better I expect.

(Tony) #11

Doh!; yes correct, I was reading about Airplay 2 release for the Uniti range, shortly after the Naim mailer took me to the site to look at the Muso 2.

(Robert Brown) #12

There is certainly a clear improvement in performance, but I wouldn’t say that’s exclusively due to the Focal drive units. We didn’t take on Focal as a brand, we preferred the sound of B&W!

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(Trans Atlantic) #13

Very excited about the Naim 2nd gen and looking forward to reading reviews/comparisons.

I assume the Naim will utterly trounce the new B&W Formation Wedge (~£800) and Bluesound Pulse Mini 2i (£499) in terms of SQ?

Can anyone say anything about how the Naim v1 compares to the Bluesound Pulse Mini 2i? I know it is no contest in terms of power, but what about sound signature etc.

#14

Hi Rob. What sample rates does it’s Chromecast input support? 96kHz supported?

(OuYang, Ming-Kang) #15

Oh I almost buy KEF LSX as TV speaker, but now maybe I should wait for the new Mu-so.

(Robert Brown) #16

It appears to accept a 96kHz Chromecast signal without stuttering. However, I have no way to monitor if it is downsampling internally to a lower resolution.

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#17

Thanks Rob.

If you use Roon to play 96kHz to the Muso’s Chomecast input, what does the Roon signal path show? Does Roon show it being down-sampled to 48kHz?

And I know “why would someone use Chromecast with Roon when it’s already Roon Ready?”… just for a quick test only, to see what Roon reports…

(Robert Brown) #18

Using Roon shows that the Naim Mu-So 2nd Generation can not only take 96 kHz, but can accept 352.8 kHz from a converted DSD64 signal. Whether it downsamples internally I can’t tell you as there is no way of outputting a digital signal to monitor the sample rate.

For anyone who’s curious about the Loudness in the chain:

loudness

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#19

Thanks @Rob_BrownGHF but that is using Muso as a Roon Ready endpoint… I figured the Roon Readyness was pretty well sorted… I was asking about using the Muso as a Chromecast endpoint… Roon should be able to see it as a Chromecast device?

Can you show what sample rate Roon shows in the signal path when playing 96kHz content to Muso as a Chromecast device?

As per previous message, before anyone asks “why would someone use Chromecast with Roon when it’s already Roon Ready?”… just for a quick test only, to see what sample rate Roon reports with 96kHz…

(Robert Brown) #20

My apologies for the misunderstanding. It casts at 24 bit 44.1 (from 88.2 et al) and 48 kHz (from 96 et al).

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