New Nucleus Titan?

The Titan now appears to be in the price range of the exaSound Delta MKII which is built primarily as a Roon server. The Delta has the performance goodies (CPU, memory, storage), a much more detailed Web interface with performance monitor, plus a separate 7 inch screen device. It has a lot going for it but it was too expensive for me at the time which was several years ago.

With the Titan in the same price range Roon will need to up its game and deck out the Titan to have it in the same performance and capability league.

I hope they do.

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Exactly as I bought mine ,my fingers “ain’t what they used to be” so I specified what I wanted they built and tested it. I could have had Windows installed but as I planned for ROCK I didn’t. I have never even opened the base , just add wires !!

I picked up a box , followed the ROCK install instructions

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Starting price mate!!! Ouch!

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Hand wringing? People are allowed an opinion. Thats why we come to a forum…no?

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SGC’s SonicTransporter has always been a better choice. They’ve always had better specs and no marketing crap… no pretense as to being a computer. Their optical i9 which has been around for a while already probably has better specs than the ‘new’ !!TITAN!!

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Roon Server and Roon ROCK run on a computer, nothing else.

They are just all a bog standard hatchback with some fancy spoilers and go fast stripes, they are not a performance car in any shape or form. Given the cheap ssd and memory this generation shipped with they are not even decent mods just cheap Halfords ones.

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Isn’t that what is it though? A small [green] computer?

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I like to see real specifications, not buying air. What processor and generation, what type of SSD and speed, usb4? Can I install my own SSD? I don’t want dated hardware like the old nucleus, when it come out it was already dated. prefer to put my money in the BACCH4Mac.

I agree with you about the software company branching out into Luxury items, seems weird, but now that Harman are involved, it’s not just a software company any longer.

Guys like yourself, with a wealth of computer knowledge, are fortunate that you can avoid having to pay for these type of products. Guys like me, who see computers as a necessary evil of modern life, and view the ‘undo’ button as your best friend, are a bit more at the mercy of these type of products.

As a control point, I haven’t found anything as slick, easy to use and stable as Roon. Audirvana may come close, but that would involve me relying on the iMac being awake. The fact that Roon also offered the hardware made it a no brainer for me. The less time I spend on a computer the better.
The Nucleus is/was overpriced if it is judged purely on it’s performance capabilities, and I would have been satisfied with a simpler case if that had made it cheaper, but I ultimately judge the cost of the Nucleus on the value it gives as a complete hardware/software package that just works all the time. I come home from work, load up a playlist on my iPhone, and relax and enjoy the music.

I am probably the exact type of person that the Nucleus was aimed at, someone who lacks computer skill or desire to gain it. With the time it would take me to figure out a DIY NUC system, I can earn more money than the Nucleus costs. Everyone has a tipping point of cost/value where they have decide whether a product is worth that cost to them.
I didn’t blink at buying the Nucleus but if I was in the same situation and the Titan was the only choice, I would probably have to look elsewhere. One similar, cheaper option would be the Innuos ZenMini which has it’s own software app, streams, has SSD storage and has it’s own CD ripper. Lack of DSP capabilities may discount it for some.

There will be those who won’t blink at the cost of a Titan, and I’m sure we will find out soon enough if the marketing department got it right, but as Bill said, a software company dealing luxury products seems alarming. Perhaps they will eventually call it Harman Titan.

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Now there’s a blast from the past , we used to have a Halford’s socket set :sunglasses:

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Shouldn’t the whole discussion not be:“When would you buy a Titan for that price?” (Specs/options/add-ons…)

Is there any clarity on what exactly IS inside the Titan? I expect a NUC11i7 and nothing else.

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I tend to agree, Miguel. But I wouldn’t be surprised if Roon took a similar step as Grimm in their MU-1/2 with a daughter FPGA/output board. I think that is unlikely, but not impossible.

I strongly doubt that - It is key to Roon to keep ROCK simple and not tailored (in my opinion anyway). The Grimm units have DACs.

I also seem to recall seeing a pic of the back of the Titan and it looked like a NUC plain and simple. It might well be the case that the power supply is linear and all that jazz, but all variations on a theme.

The one place where there might be a difference is in the USB output to the DAC, which might use one of the JCAT solutions or similar. But frankly I doubt it.

PS: Misspoke… the M1 does not have a DAC, but does have an array of SPDIF outputs. Again I think that very unlikely.

PS2: Image of back:

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Actually, I bet it is a NUC12. NUC11 back looks different.

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Great points, Miguel. I think you’re right.

Since Intel stops doing NUCs it could also be an ASUS NUC 13/14 Pro

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Asus from the back.

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Really? Intel stopped making NUCs???

I got it from this article.

Do a google search “intel abandons nuc”