I would consider nucleus if it wasn’t made with such out if date hardware. I know it technically doesn’t matter but if I’m paying what it is then I won’t accept 7th gen when 11th gen exists today.
I suppose the typical nucleus customer has no idea what I just said 
We are always looking for new boards but always sticking to the same cpus. They are a perfect performance and heat tradeoff.
I wouldn’t go anywhere near the heat boxes that are 11th gen intel cpus.
3 posts were merged into an existing topic: If Apple moves to ARM – will there be a Roon Core for ARM?
I would have to disagree on the term heat box. They are on a 10nm node and can function passively with the right case no problem and HD Plex is proof of that supporting double a U series TDP.
What I won’t argue with is the need for change. It ain’t broken and it has plenty headroom already.
Its just my inner nerd.
There are people who believe in audiophile treatment of LAN ports; the ethernet switches do not sound the same to some people.
See this product: EtherREGEN – UpTone Audio, which have got raving reviews.
Unless you try such devices yourself, you would never know. When the time is right, I am open-minded to try it (since Roon is unlikely to produce a 2 LAN port Nucleus, at least not with the proper isolation treatment).
I have no tech knowledge, have no interest in debating with gurus or specialists, and will only rely on my ears.
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I am always open to trying out things and believe in my ears too.
I did try the iFi USB decrappifier as there was some rave about it and could tell zero difference at all so back to Amazon it went.
Just my opinion but I don’t think we all should be so close minded about things without possibly giving them a trial.
Think we can close this subject matter now because a Nucleus with 2 LAN ports is no longer a realistic, viable or desirable option. Hi-end reclocking of ethernet switches has apparently resulted in big improvement in sound quality by many users’ reports (from my discovery over the past two days). See EtherREGEN (UpTone Audio) ($640 with master clock input option); Melco S100 (around $2200); SOtM sNH-10G ($800.00 with master clock addition option); TELEGÄRTNER M12 SWITCH GOLD (Euro 3500), etc. Not all sound quality improvement can be measured or is measurable (from my own experience of trying different cables). However, if one opts for all-in-one music players (with both server and renderer functions where the music data transfer happens inside the players, not via ethernet cable streaming), the likes of Taiko Extreme and Antipodes K50, one would not need such ethernet switch reclockers (unless one has multizone streaming needs). Two different upgrade paths then.
This seriously needs to be closed as more people are at risk to digest this utter nonsense. Ethernet - reclocking? Holy Moly!!
If you are not open to trying a $640 Ethernet reclocker - with 30 day no-question-asked return policy (and the company has sold 2000+ ethernet reclockers and the demand currently exceeds supply), you will never find out - see the various YouTube videos and end-user testimonies - they cannot be all liars and believers in snake oil. There is more there than you and I know. Go figure. I am currently using an all-in-one server/renderer combo and if I move to separate server and renderer, I owe it to myself to try an ethernet reclocker.
Monster cables was a billion dollar a year company.
“What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof.”
This is applicable to all kinds of believe, believe it or not 
With respect, ethernet is commodity hardware, made to specifications, not magic. It’s amongst the most reliable technologies around and wouldn’t work at all if noise or signal degradation was a thing.
I’ll leave you to it, and hope you enjoy whatever upgrade path you choose.
Don’t worry. He isn’t offering you anything. In fact what he is talking about is how he enjoys music. 
Further. My new, possibly all time favourite, ‘Ethernet Re-Clocking’. Good god, these data transports also include buffers at various stages. Stacking packets, sorting those, even requesting retransmission if a packet got lost. There is simply no way to time align the packet flow. Not that this even would make the slightest sense. Ever seen a packet capture? Want to consider all sorts of protocol traffic using the very same cable in parallel?
These switches may very well make a sound quality improvement but that is certainly not because of any “reclocking”. Ethernet switches do not benefit from “more stable” clocks. Your ones and zeros and arriving without issue and reclocking does not impact “noise” (even if you believe in such a thing the “clock” isn’t impacting this).
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This is the right answer. You can but in this application there is absolutely zero reason to.
I have tried the etherregen. I borrowed it from a friend who was totally lyrical about it. Funny thing is when I asked him if he had listened to his system without it while it was at my place. He said no, he didn’t want to listen to an inferior system and just waited for the etherregen to come back (his words, not mine) I insisted he should give it a listen without. Guess what, his etherregen is up for sale now. Funny thing is, this is the fourth time something like this happened. Someone buys a cure-box, is lyrical about it and insists I should try it. I insist they listen to their system without in the mean time and in the end all of these cure boxes went up for sale.
This shows that it is about boxes and equipment, not about the music.
For me music is emotion and i can listen to my favorite music on an inferior system.
Right now i am in a garden working, waiting on a friend and listening to music.
Life is good …
Nobody, by definition, believes in snake oil. The point here is that there are numerous rational explanations as to why people might hear a difference if they buy an expensive bit of networking gear (cognitive bias, etc), but not a single rational explanation as to how any of these devices could possibly improve the sound quality of the system to which they are attached. Go figure.
Or, looking at this from a different angle, you owe it to yourself to read up on how ethernet networks actually work and how a device such as this can’t possibly make a difference.