Has anyone played with Sonos app and checked the Apple Music integration? If so wouldn’t that be the same working model that Roon should use?
No it’s not at all. It works purely on Sonos hardware as Apple sanctioned this it was many moons ago when AM wasn’t as big or available. It requires authentication via the Apple Musc app too as It’s just a window using the their api you get no Roon features so no use for a headless core especially Rock or Nucleus. It’s almost like they just embedded the Apple App in thier own. It’s also like all third parties using the web api limited to AAC.
I would give up on AM it’s not going to happen unless Apple bow down on their lock-in. Which is unlikely.
As I called it some time ago about it not necessarily being one of the big Western services.
What’s KKBlox?
What’s a Google?
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Korean streaming platform, it’s the East’s Tidal or Qobuz
It means no one in the US will have access.
This will be interesting.
This community muddles through in English by assuming that non-English speakers can get by one way or another - either through fluency or online translation. I don’t believe that will fly with KKBOX subscribers whose native languages are Korean, Japanese, Mandarin, etc. It’s not just a language issue, it’s a cultural issue. I just don’t get how the current support and moderation models will work. Who will even know if the non-English language threads that I expect will show up have gone completely toxic? Who will understand culture-appropriate moderation strategies?
I wonder if this will end up being just one more area in which Roon overextends by underestimating the complexity of an undertaking. I certainly get the desire to scale into new markets but Roon feels spread so thin already and going into this market is much, much more complicated than just adding another western service.
I hope it goes well.
One would hope they have added someone from support in that area. They already cover different zones as they are all remote. But if not I agree it has the potential to backfire.
Some of you act like Roon management doesn’t have the sense to come in out of the rain. I’m sure they have this KKBox integration well thought out. It’s not something we need to worry about.
The world is much bigger than the US. I don’t know, but doubt KKBox would give us anything we don’t already get from Tidal and/or Qobuz. That’s why I don’t get why people are clammering for Roon to integrate more streaming services in the US.
EDIT: I get Apple Music free from Verizon. It’s a great fall back for when Roon ARC stops working, but adds nothing I don’t already get from Tidal and Qobuz. Adding Apple Music to Roon does nothing for me unless I want to drop Tidal and Qobuz.
Options are always great. We mainly want apple added .
I have a fairly sizable playlist in Apple Music of albums not on Tidal or Qobuz. I mostly use AM on the go. I know if it drops out my cell connection is truly in the dirt. Also if the net goes down at home I can still play my local music in AM.
Me too. AM is great in the car with CarPlay.
Multiple Roon users:
“Hope its Apple Music”
“Roon needs Apple Music”
“Apple Music is the best”.
Roon:
“Helllo KKBOX”
I hope the new arrival KKBOX users enjoy the Roon experience as much as the rest of us. Big market for Roon out there and certainly bigger than the echo chamber of this forum.
The Live Music Archive has tons of live recordings, including 17,461 by the Grateful Dead. See Internet Archive: Digital Library of Free & Borrowable Books, Movies, Music & Wayback Machine.
In fact, according to Wikipedia:
The Live Music Archive sub-collection includes more than 170,000 concert recordings from independent musicians, as well as more established artists and musical ensembles with permissive rules about recording their concerts, such as the Grateful Dead, and more recently, The Smashing Pumpkins. Also, Jordan Zevon has allowed the Internet Archive to host a definitive collection of his father Warren Zevon’s concert recordings. The Zevon collection ranges from 1976 to 2001 and contains 126 concerts including 1,137 songs.
In the early 2000s, a friend built the Live Music extension for Squeezebox. Happy to inquire whether something might be possible with Roon. The ability to browse and listen to recordings through the Roon UX would add tremendous value for the Archive.
Can we please stay on topic here, which is new streaming services…not support or concerns over it .
Clean up on aisle 5 commencing.
Thank you.
The music I’m listening to is available on Qobuz, Tidal as well as Deezer and Apple Music. I know, because I’m subbed to all 4 of them.
KKBOX is unavailable here in the Netherlands, but I know some of the streaming services we have are unavailable in the places that KKBOX calls home.
If Roon believes this will help spread the Roon software into the Asian market, then by all means I’m up for that.
Because if you’re an Apple Music subscriber, for example, you don’t want to have no other choice than to subscribe to Qobuz or Tidal to benefit from Roon’s extensive features. It’s just that simple.
Or, you could drop Apple Music and subscribe to Tidal or Qobuz instead. I can’t see Apple Music ever hooking up with Roon. Why would they?