Offline mode wanted

I would very much like my Roon instance to be able to perform without Internet connectivity.
That would mean some or all of these;
Ability to start a Core without requesting online info about other uses of the account.
Ability to perform a search of a library data without delay, whether online connected or not. (Option to search locally BEFORE performing search)

Why then? Well, because sometimes i like to bring a ROCK server along to my mobile home and listen to music on the current location, rarely online access.
Search function is a nuisance these days, a wait time of more than a second is two seconds too long…

1 Like

How would Roon prevent piracy if this were the case?

I dont know, a license file or whatever? There are a lot of applications that does not require internet access for authorizing. (They are becoming scarse though!)

It sounds like what you want is for Roon’s search not to be slower when the Roon does not have access to the internet.

That I feel would be more reasonable request and hence may gain greater traction.

As long as roon (still) deals with personal libraries I believe having the possibility to use it offline is reasonable enough, just saying…

As for the “grater traction”, following the request/implement ratio over the last few years I believe that “traction” is something absolutely irrelevant around here (again, I’m just saying :grinning:)!

You bring up some very valid points since not every location has high speed internet available. So many programs and apps depend on high speed internet to function properly and therefore become unusable when that internet connectivity is not available.

There are plenty of desktop applications that work offline. At least for long enough to be still be useful.

I agree Roon should have an offline mode…frankly I didn’t realize it didn’t because any time the Internet goes out here so does the power.

Actually I think I have read here that Roon will work for a short period offline - days, not hours. The question may be more about whether you can reauthorize an offline core.

1 Like

Danny has stated time is more like weeks

1 Like

Right, so the user should authorize the core at home first, while online, then take it on the road, should work for a while.

Just to pile more fun on the 1.8 wagon, this doesn’t appear to be the case anymore. My internet just went off, and I thought to myself, well at least I have 1000+ albums on my drive that I can still listen to, nope. Roon opened but barely functioned, I could start playback of a handful of tracks which I guess I had been looking at prior to it going offline. It oddly also lost contact with my pi’s running Roon Bridge, although they were still online (ie. I could ssh to them)

You’d think not having internet is a niche problem, but when living rurally it happens with alarming regularity.

I’m in my cabin now, no Internet available but Roon is playing happily on my MacBook with a 5Tb portable drive. Roon seems even to have fixed the need for Internet access to activate local audio devices! :wink:
(I’m typing this on an iPad which have Internet connectivity, though)

1 Like

Hmm odd. Did you do anything special, eg max out your cache? I even tried restarting the core thinking if it started without internet it might work out it was offline.

And the music resume playback 30 minutes later, as soon as the net came back online.

No special procedures. I usually start my portable setup at home (WLAN access) when i have made changes to the library, then it’s good to go when im off the grid.

But, i have experienced similar fall outs at home when my ISP was having issues. but i fully blame my router for behaving irrational at those times. I dont think it’s a Roon issue, in other words.

The rest of my devices were functioning fine, could connect to everything, dhcp still functioning etc. Though that might be part of the problem. If your device is fully offline, roon might be able to confirm it has no outbound route but in my case it still had local network access but no internet.

I’ll run some experiments when I get some time and verify. Just to confirm you are on 1.8 as well?

Yepp, and Roon might react differently since it’s all in one machine on my MBP.
(On 1.7 i had the issue where i had to connect the MBP to Internet to get Roon to activate/find the audio outputs on the MBP, then i could disconnect)

My main reason for wanting an offline mode is to stop myself from buying CDs I already have.

The ability to store a searchable list of artists and albums locally on a smart phone or tablet, or on a cloud drive, is all that is necessary. Then when not connected to either of my two Roon setups, the Roon app could have a feature to search the list. Then when in a music shop I can search the list to check if I already have the album.

Even better, have a discography of each artist and the ability to check what I don’t already have. But given they can’t do that in connected Roon, I doubt it would be an offline feature anytime soon.

Your request is easier to fulfill, you could export your library to an excel spreadsheet. Those can be stored on your phone or tablet easily (or to dropbox or such).
I use discogs for a similar purpose, but that only contain my vinyl records as of yet.

I actually do this. For the results see Lloyd Borrett - Interests - Music & Film - CD Collection

It would be a lot easier if the Roon app did it though.

1 Like

One may think so, unfortunately it is a wider and bigger problem than most realize.

Take a look at https://www.collectorz.com/

Thanks for the suggestion. I don’t want to have to export something out of Roon and then put it into another app or site. I’m already doing that by updating my web page.

But for many, it’s too many steps and too complicated. I want an elegant Roon based solution.