Great point! Qobuz really is exceptional in this regard. Figures I’ve seen show them paying the artist 4 times more than Amazon, and almost 10 times more than Apple. This makes me feel very good about supporting Qobuz. Thanks for bringing this up.
(Note: these rates are from 2018 and may have changed)
What is the value of this type of comparison for services that cannot be compared? If qobuz were the size of spotify I’m not sure it would pay artists more. For an artist, the total remuneration of Qobuz is undoubtedly very lower than that of the other big services.
Yes, but why wouldn’t it? The fact that a relatively small concern gives a greater percentage to the artists than a larger player is one of the points of the comparision.
I can understand incentives to subscribe to a product, but there’s no reason to lessen the incentives to artists except greed, but I know you aren’t defending that practice.
Spotify distributes so many more streams than Qobuz, and the overall payments to the artists are multiplied by the number of times the track is streamed. So it is entirely possible that artists are making more money with Spotify, and Qobuz may be paying artists more per stream because they have to in order to purchase streaming rights.
We don’t know the real reason Qobuz is (or was) paying more per stream to the artist. They say that it is because they want to support the artists, and this may be true, but it may be more complicated than that. It may also be that the artists (or their publishers) are not allowing Qobuz to have streaming rights unless they pay a certain minimum per year, and since they have relatively low streaming numbers this necessitates a higher price per stream given to the artist, and lower profits for Qobuz.
Qobuz may be accepting this loss of revenue for the near term while they break into the market, but it would not be surprising to see their payments to artist decrease as they acquire more customers. This doesn’t make anybody greedy, it’s just the nature of business.
Of course, all of this is a total guess. Just thoughts for discussion.
The calculation by flow has nothing to do with the contracts negotiated between labels and the streaming service. You must know the real amount paid and the number of flows. Streaming services donate most of their revenue and have no profitability.
The nature of the business is to lessen the rewards to those who had a role in the success of the business? What would you think if your remuneration was calculated that way?
It’s greed.
Huh? Don’t know what that means. A business that is not profitable because it donates its revenue.
What’s the point?
I presume incentive was provided while Qobuz was trying to grow its base of contributors prior to launch in the US. A healthy cash incentive always brings people running. My guess is it would have been documented that the enhanced payments would taper or cease over time and become more normal. Still up there with the competitors but not significantly more.
I Googled it. I don’t remember the specifics but Deezer are paying the big bucks right now and that was after a change they made in September 2019 to the way they make payments.
