@mike Can these changes be rolled back which may undo the issue with OpenGL 3.0 support I have?
Hi Simon,
The general policy is that Roon doesnât support downgrading.
Been exploring a bit more, and I really like the New Releases for You feature - particularly when sorted by relevance, there were very few misses in the first 50 or so albums presented. Below that, it started to get closer to 50/50 pretty quickly.
Would love the ability to filter this view by genre. I understand this may be difficult because Tidal and Qobuz divide things up differently, but even high level filtering by Classical, Jazz, and Pop/Rock (etc) would be helpful.
Not necessarily new to 1.7, but related to the Overview screen, itâs a bit clunky that I can see Qobuz Grand Selection there but canât filter by genre (even if I click View All) - I have to go to the Qobuz screen to do that.
It is also a bit weird that the New Releases for You isnât part of âDiscoverâ. To be honest, I rarely use that screen, and adding that feature to it might revitalize that part of the Roon experience.
Iâve found the âNew Releases for Youâ feature really gets specific when you âlikeâ a few artists! Havenât bothered before but now I can properly tweak the suggestions Iâll get 'ing more proactively!
Maybe there should be a thread about âWhat Iâve done to improve recommendationsâ?
Roon has given some broad points about how the algorithm(s) decide what to present to the user (NRfY, Recommended for You, Roon Radio). But itâs unlikely theyâll be very specific about their proprietary techniques.
Google famously does not reveal how search results are presented. Through trial and error, itâs become possible to shape a desired outcome via certain site characteristics. It should be possible to influence the outcome with Valence by modifying ones library/use characteristics(?).
Whether youâd want to do that is one thing. And certainly it could get crazier than MQA/audiophile ethernet cable threads. But it might be fun anyway.
Also seems like you might want to have various backups of your databaseâŠ
@mike, dare to comment?
Hello there
I was traveling for a month so I missed what happened. Not sure if that was mentioned but I liked the bold font, it looked great on my TV. Could we have the choice to toggle it on/off?
Frack! Did get Céline Dion in my recommended list, on top of Shakira
Itâs not a choice. Roon has changed its âfont rendering engineâ (apologies for inaccuracy here). On most machines, including the ones Roon tested it on it appears fine. Under some circumstances the rendering is more pronounced than some like.
This is something Roon can tune, so letâs see where they end up. All users can do is make some changes to % magnification, I believe.
What everybody should do is being patient. Give it time, thatâs all you need to do to improve it.
âRecommended for Youâ section with Tidal is awesome! But I have a question. Are there any possibilities to see recommended albums after I had added them to library? Iâd like to see these AI connections of one album to another. âFocus On Similarâ button doesnât help. It just shows thousands of albums of the same genre.
Hmmmm, so you know for a fact that âFavoritingâ an artist will have no effect on the recommendations? If you have no favorites, things wonât be different if there are favorites? Are too many favorites worse than a certain number?
Do you know if playing an artist a lot of times will affect whatâs being recommended more or less than favoriting them?
I DO get your point @Nyquist and donât disagree. Over time, everything will settle into place and be good. But some people will love some features more than others and will want every opportunity to make it work as best it can. Some others donât have much patience (Iâm guilty!).
Iâm not going to start the thread, and if nobody is interested thatâs best. But some people will be curious about what can be done, if anything, and itâs easiest to find if collated in one place. It would be best if Roon did it, but if they donât itâs up to the Community.
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I donât know how the Valence algorithm works but I guess it has a lot in common with other learning algorithms like the ones in Tidal, Spotify, Deezer. They all work best by not forcing anything, just play music like you always do. Thatâs about the best you can do, it needs time. Deezer had recommendations for me that perfectly fitted my taste but it took at least half a year. Roon radio was pretty horrible at the beginning, it took about half a year before it got somewhere. I guess Valence does not even look at your favourites at all, in fact in order to work good it shouldnât because it would be running around in circles sooner or later. The value of a good recommendations algorithm is to take you somewhere you never knew it existed. There is no value in mainly recommending new releases from artist you allready know. As far as I know Valence works community wide. Most important thing it probably needs is time to learn normal playback behaviour of a large community. Unfortunatly Roon community is only around 100.000 users which ainât that much.
Is my memory wrong or did the Artist shuffle feature used to be confined to albums in your library? Now it seems to mix local and Tidal content? Is this by design? Iâd prefer it not to (since thatâs catered for by the new Artist play functionality).
Iâm happy to say that the 1.7 (505) build has resolved the Qobuz 192/24 streaming crashes I was experiencing. I just played the âStars FellâŠâ with no issues. I already sent a message to SoTM with the good news.
I dont understand your search result. I have executed exactly the same query and ends fine up with four results as topresult.
Excellent result.
I like Roon 1.7 a lot.
What i dislike is the âAll Tracksâ tab in album view because it slow down the system (Intel NUC i5) if the album is a bigger multi-disc-set.
I also find that the âAll Tracksâ feature stops the linking from a playlist to a specific disc in a multi-disc set. I keep a playlist of tracks I have got to in long multi-disc sets (Wagnerâs Ring for example), then I would click the album name on the track in the playlist, and the album would open on that disc, with the track highlighted in blue so I could quickly find it.
Now it canât do that, or if it does its so far down the âall tracksâ list I donât see it - maybe Roon could put the âAll Tracksâ tab at the end of the multi-disc set so it can load at its leisure and still provide links through to the disc loaction from a playlist?
With 1.7, my connection from my Galaxy Tab to Roon ROCK running on my NUC takes longer now, maybe about 20-30 seconds.
With 1.5, I had problems establishing and keeping a connection at all.
With 1.6, the problem was fixed and I would get an almost instant connection.
This is the most notable change for me.
From the last update 1.7 notoriously unable to login Tidal from routed subnet (in the same subnet from control PC login is OK, as internet access so), until plug in WiFi dongle -which connect to âinternetâ subnet-. Mysterious.