Sure, that would work for some. It’s not what I want, but I see your point.
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It’s pretty funny that the post got 7 Likes though…
Hi @LarryMagoo, I’m not sure what you’re referring to. But, I think we’ve already discussed that receiving likes on a post that violates the Forum Guidelines doesn’t change the fact that it’s a post that violates Forum Guidelines.
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Referring to my 90 day suspension post getting 7 Likes…;-). just thought it was amusing…
Whenever I’ve had Internet down the last few months I could not use Roon 2.0 to play local music.
Today, the whole fiber network from my ISP is down and their support service was so appalling, the REALLY upset me, so I when and I put up a recent downloaded album, the Faure requiem, loud to relax.
It’s only after 30 that I realised, YES today it works, hope my ISP restore my connection fast, but in the mean time I can relax.
Luck or better resilience in recent versions? I don’t know but I really love it.
Edit: Arghhhhh spoke too fast, only lasted 2 hours, then go an error: too many failures, … 
Edit 2: 30hours without music until the fiber network was restored, that was loooooong, too long 
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Hello everyone,
Last week, I had an internet outage for two days due to a fiber problem in my neighborhood.
I wanted to use ROON but impossible, I was surprised that it asked me for my username.
Is it necessary to have permanent internet to be able to use ROON?
I don’t find this normal because I have a lifetime license, I paid for it, an internet cut should not prevent me from using ROON !! Is there any improvement planned for those with a lifetime license.
I thank you for your feedback.
Cordially,
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Hello, just another user here. My understanding is that in order to have the current and future benefits of Roon 2.0 there needs to be a constant internet connection.
Yes a permanent internet connection is a requirement now. It has been a highly debated topic, perform a search for more info
All your answers are here, no need to post a new thread as it’s all in here.
Thanks
I can understand that I need the internet to download cover art, album information, lyrics, etc… and to use the services of TIDAL and QOBUZ
But I don’t find it normal not to be able to read the library locally when you have a lifetime license. I will understand that there may be missing elements when there is an internet outage.
Having a lifetime license, I should be able to read my library as I want with internet or without.
Thanks to the team for thinking about it
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I have a lifetime license as well. But when it comes to the software itself, there is no difference between a lifetimer, normal subscriber or a trial member.
The Roon team decided that with Roon 2.0 an Internet connection is mandatory. Part of your data is now stored in the Roon cloud, and not locally anymore. As far as I know.
I just discovered the subject, this operation is a hostage taking.
I bought the lifetime license in 2020. If I knew how it works, I may not have invested my money in ROON software and devices.
Once you buy a lifetime license you should be able to use it offline for local playback.
For people with a lifetime license, it does not shock you, you have to come forward or maybe it is wanted to stop selling a lifetime license?
I am very disappointed with this operation.
You say there would be data in the cloud? is it true I have never heard of this.
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Much like Roon Corporation’s abysmal product support, they also have a poor understanding of their user base and assume they know better. Market research is not a strong suit.
You really have only two choices, suffer in silence since your hands are tied, or move on to another product.
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It shouldn’t be.
On another note… I think there’s more to the internet required than just to be able to provide better search or ARC connectivity… I vaguely remember a pirated 1.x version of roon floating around the web… I wonder if the 1.8+ internet requirement is in a small way linked to preventing this with future versions.
A lifetime license has nothing to do with it. I have two of them. Paying for lifetime is just another way of paying for Roon. It does not entitle us to anything more than anyone else gets if they pay annually or monthly.
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Apple has the same way of thinking.
First of all: I’m talking about Roon, the RoonCore in my LAN at home, and not about Roon ARC.
Please make Roon independent, at least in a light and limited version, from a working internet connection.
I don’t see the point why I shouldn’t be able to play local music files on my core without a working internet connection. In case my carrier is struggling or doing maintenance, Roon should at least work in a limited way so that it is possible to play local files.
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Roon Core Machine
System76 Meerkat running Roon ROCK
https://tech-docs.system76.com/models/meer5/README.html
My Roon Core host is a System76 Meerkat is 11th gen core i3 with 250 MB NVME SSD for system software and Crucial 1TB USB3 SSD for media. 8 GB main memory. This is a NUC 11th gem i3 with curated memory and storage inside.
Networking Gear & Setup Details
Cox Internet, Motorola SurfBoard DOCSIS 3.3 modem 100MB down, 10 MB up.
Ubiquity Unify Dream Machine Pro, Cat 5 network core originates here.
Unify Switch-8-150 with Cat 5 links to Unify Switch-8-60 access switches
Unify HD In-Wall access points
Connected Audio Devices
Allo DigiOne Signature Ethernet, SPDIF
Schiit Gumby Multibit
iPad Mini5 controller, iPhone 11 controller
Number of Tracks in Library
52,000 tracks, 4614 albums Qobuz plus owned, 700 or so in local storage.
Description of Issue
We had a little weather drama on June 16
Power and internet were cut by a thunderstorm
NUC tripped and was restarted manually after storm had passed but before Internet was restored
iPad Roon Remote was unable to authenticate to the Roon ROCK core
Roon was unavailable until Cox fixed its misfortune
Ended up AirPlaying offline music from iPhone ARC app. Glad I had set up ARC for car tunes. Never thought I’d use it inside the lifelines. New ARC use-case. I’ve used it offline in the car a bit via wired CarPlay.
I have about 700 local albums stored on core that were unavailable until the Cox fade was corrected.
Normally, an authenticated Roon Core will continue to serve local media during an Internet fade.
The thing that was different this time is that a common event caused a few seconds power interruption and a few hours Internet fade. Thinking tree trauma as 60 MPH winds at the time.
Core tripped, was restarted by hand after storm had passed but before Cox was back, and came up unable to call home to authenticate my login credentials. No way to play my local music using Roon Endpoints until Cox came back around 9 PM. Hurricane season is coming!
ARC filled in AirPlay to AppleTV and TOSlink from TV to HiFiBerry Digi+ streamer and Schiit Modius DAC that does TV audio.
Recommendation: Separate core login to Roon metadata service and local controller login so controller can play local music until Internet fade is corrected. FIDO2 PassKey authentication coming? Have NFC UbiKey5 for that purpose. Or use Apple Secure Enclave services.
I’m a big Roon fan. Nothing is better than Roon Radio for music discovery! And Roon Home new music recommendations are pretty solid. Product architecture is solid.
Not a Support issue. This is a dead horse.
AJ
Had a recent Internet outage. My tens of thousands++++ dollars of audio equipment became a steaming pile of worthless ■■■■■ Having my entire system and my local files held hostage by Roon was an eye-opener. Actually infuriating. Their product their decision.
Meanwhile, can anyone direct me to a program source or method where I can listen to my local files when the Internet is down?
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