Roon 2.0 and internet connectivity [it's just like 1.8 now]

[Dirk_De_Taey]

Audirvana origin

[ger_tielemans]

If you are not like her, you could:

1. look in the manuals of your expensive hifi stuff, maybe they can also play local files (like mine with BLuOS or HEOS)
2. invest in a local fall-back-system (70 Dollar? see below) for example a RPI4 with dietPi - i use an old RPI2 with DietPI - and then one of the media apps, depending of your wishes: Media Systems Software Options - DietPi.com Docs

https://www.amazon.com/Raspberry-Model-2019-Quad-Bluetooth/dp/B07TC2BK1X?th=1

[Glimmer]

Tether to your mobile account?

[Andrew_Webb]

I run Plex/Plexamp as a backup system. Works better out out of the house than ARC, too. Cheap. Simple. Reliable. I you run Macs, Swinsian is a great player. Very fast and straightforward.

[Rugby (aka Daniel or Big Dan)]

Logitech Media Server works.

[garym]

And runs nicely on an rPi3 or 4.

[Arian_Evans]

New(ish) Roon customer here - extremely happy and just finished migrating everything to Roon except now winter weather has arrived. Internet will be down multiple times a week, sometimes daily. I was about to build a dedicated NUC to serve the home and family, and Boom - can’t Sign-in to or use Roon.

Roon team - what is the path now (9/24/2023) to use Roon without an internet connection on a dedicated NUC/device? What is your long term plan?

If no viable plan, definitely will abandon Roon for an offline-capable solution. Hope you manage to create a long term solution for folks that lack reliable internet. I’m sure there is one. I don’t need lyrics, or much of anything aside from ability to play my own FLAC files via Roon clients while offline.

[Rugby (aka Daniel or Big Dan)]

Use windows and load an alternate software to use when the internet is down, like Logitech media server. Roon had a monthly Check in arrangement but dropped that with v2. I would not count on it coming back.

[Arian_Evans]

Yes, I found this thread following the historical threads on this.

And yes, I will use an alternate solution for Roon when the internet is unavailable if Roon remains unavailable. Since that state happens to us constantly 4-5 months out of the year, sometimes for days at a time: that means I won’t be using Roon at all, nor paying for it, if Roon does not provide a solution.

[mjw]

@Arian_Evans

Since that state happens to us constantly 4-5 months out of the year, sometimes for days at a time …

The definitive statement is at the top of the thread:

Roon 2.0 and internet connectivity [it's just like 1.8 now]

With the Roon Core on version 2.0, the grace period is not 30 days anymore. You must have internet access to run the Roon Core 2.0. If you require offline access for any substantial period of time, you must stay on 1.8 Legacy.

However, there is a thread where a community member is attempting to set up both 1.8 and 2.0 cores, which may interest you.

1.8 and 2.0 - on the same hardware?

I’m a sailor, and I go out to sea for about a week several times a year. I take a micro computer running 1.8 with me (and it works great)! My question is - when I’m back on land, I’d like to deauth 1.8, and auth a 2.0 instance living on the same physical hardware. Will the two versions coexist on the same box (Linux) at the same time? I would shut down whichever service isn’t being used. I can test this, but I figured I would ask before trying. Cheers, and thanks!

[Formula]

While not ideal. Some of us have two machines. I keep a 1.8 Legacy machine that I boot up from time to time to keep my music up to date. I’m not fussed about play counts, etc. So, when I’m bored and I’ve got more music. I’ll spend a few hours updating my second external drive attached to the 1.8 Legacy machine.

[Mikael_Ollars]

Problem is, the day your Internet is absent, your 1.8 Core will likely need auth from Roon to start up…

[Joost_M]

Ideed. However, for just 1.8 auth a short use of a mobile connection will do (when available).

[Formula]

Yeah, exactly. Simply hotspot and you’ll be good for 30 days.

[ffk (Doctors Practice. Plumbers Perform.)]

@WiWavelength

Not a Support issue. This is a dead horse.

It may very well be a dead horse, but it’s a bunch of ■■ as well.

Limited functionality/local playback of music, shouldn’t be a huge problem to solve if no internet connecton is found but LAN is still functional.

Oh… the search engine won’t function… you don’ t need search to play music.

It’s the login authentication at launch that is the next hoop to jump through… which could be fixed but… I still have in the back of my mind this little bug nagging me that it is to prevent pirating or faking account credentials and allowing usage of the app without a valid Roon account…

@Mikael_Ollars

Problem is, the day your Internet is absent, your 1.8 Core will likely need auth from Roon to start up…

So it still needs connectivity… more ■■. Goes back to the pirating and faking credentials theory again…

[John_Gardner]

I only discovered this “feature” when our internet failed (which happens several times a year)

Sadly I bought a lifetime license before I discovered this, and would have looked for a more robust alternative if I had known

[danny (Danny Dulai)]

This was reverted back to 1.8 functionality:

A message from the Roon founders

To everyone in the Roon community, Last November, Roon Labs was acquired by Harman International. This marks a new beginning for Roon, our industry partners, and our team. Today, we want to discuss what this means for us, for you, and for the future of Roon. These past few months have been incredibly busy as we merge our company into Harman, an organization many times our size. We’ve been deeply impressed by the resources, funding, and infrastructure available at our new home, and Harman’s lea…

[MikeD (- Music Is In The Ear Of The Beholder)]

@danny

No More Constant Internet Requirement for 2.0.

Thank You !

–MD

[franck_boissiere (franck)]

that is really a great move. Thanks for listening to your user base

[M_Badger (M Badge)]

got there in the end - welcome back Roon !