Roon 2.0: From Rumors To Reality

I guess I’m going be a naysayer here… this release bores me to death. Why o why would you spend precious engineering efforts on such a thing that already exists in multiple ways. I have Plexamp… I’m never using ARC. What I want from roon is for it to be half the price because I don’t feel like I’m getting good value from it and this is the “major update” .NET Core does native mac silicon and something got ported… wow cool story bro, that’s not an update. I still struggle mightily with music discovery on Roon… I know there’s a lot going on but it feels so static to me.

This release has solidified that I’m taking a year off from Roon and flashing Volumio to all my devices. It’s literally half the price of Roon and does almost all of the same stuff. My year renewal is coming up soon… will check back in with yall in 2023.

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Depends where you are, but can be very bad yes, even along train tracks in the east, for instance, and not every train has working on-board wifi. Doesn’t just affect ARC though

Do let us know how the year went! Volumio looks nice but missing too many of my favorite Roon features.

Is Roon Arc available on Apple Carplay? Nope.

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Around big cities it is fine, but not on the flat land. And I live in the famous Black Forest, were you can hear the cuckoo clock but no cell phone ring. :wink:

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Exactly why I have no use for ARC! I’m streaming only for 99% of the time, have been for years now, so if I want my library on the move I just use the excellent Qobuz app… I can’t really see why ARC exists, except of course for those ‘legacy’ users who still buy files?

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Well, it’s good to see progress of sorts. New features are great, but core functionality, performance and reliability still have issue. So here’s hoping these are improved/fixed. Personally I’m going to patiently wait to upgrade until I’ve seen others with big libraries do so with satisfying results. I’ll let the brave among you start the debugging cycle. Maybe jump in after the shrapnel has stopped flying or at a least subsides a bit. :wink: Hopefully, it will not force me to upgrade until I’m ready.

Me neither and there doesn’t seem to be any other benefits to updating, so I’m ignoring the messages for now as surely there will be plenty of bugs in 2.0 even when not using ARC feature?

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Well….
Does 2.0 update automatically onto one’s Roon?
All of a sudden none of my devices can see my core (NUC 5i with ROCK) ….
Too much of a coincidence

I give you a minus one heart for trying to use Roon full functionality while driving. Mobile means away from home, not at 60 mph.

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Can I just confirm… I want to ignore all this, nothing here for me, so… can I just ignore the upgrade messages OR will the iOS apps update and then no longer work with my 1.8 install core on the ROCK? I certainly don’t want to update to 2.0 then have to download 1.8 legacy for the ROCK and have to install that?

Make sure auto update apps is turned off, so you don’t have to worry.

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Depends on how you have this set -

I had troubles with ROCK, also. Reboot fixed everything.

Don’t forget to update your Remotes.

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Go to Roon - Settings - About and see. I turn off automatic updates there to prevent getting updates I’m not ready for.

Looks like you can’t transfer your playing queue from an endpoint to ARC, which would have been a great use case for ARC… if of course it worked with CarPlay…

If I can just play a Tidal album via the ARC interface I don’t see the point since I can already do that via the Tidal app, which also works with CarPlay, whereas ARC doesn’t… Sorry Roon, you really missed a lot of points here…

And I think it is because you are still of a 1995 mindset and you developed all this for those 5 guys who still have their own 500k tracks collection stored lovingly on dusty hard drives in their basements - HELLO folks, it’s 2022, everybody is using a streaming service! Good Morning!!!

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I presume you mean in iOS? (Already have updates turned off in Roon)

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HELLLL YEAAAAH Roon Mobile is running like crazy… Sooo happy!!!

So, this is the de facto feedback thread? Anyway, some notes (windows server/remote)…

Did not automatically configure router (netgear r7000). Upnp was on, turned off and back on as suggested, still didn’t work. Did manual port forwarding entry and that worked.

Question: I guess with manual port forwarding I need to use a static IP on the server?

Installed Roon ARC for Android, logged in, connected to server with no drama.

While browsing library, got messages about slow connection. Was still on wifi/lan.

Could not find Tidal tab with your mixes, new releases, etc. Guess this is coming soon, or nah?

Could not find a way to show/select/play bookmarks. Coming soon?

Happy to see ‘start radio’ on artists and genres and whatnot.

Question. If I play something from Tidal using arc, does the core get it and stream it back out to Arc or does Arc get it directly from Tidal? What about mqa?

At any rate, looks like a nice update for mobile. I currently use Tidal’s mobile app because it is 10x Qobuz’s mobile app. Hoping Arc does the same thing for Qobuz mobile as Roon does for desktop, ie making Qobuz usable plus bonus no mqa drama. Will be sticking with Tidal mobile app for now, but looking forward to seeing how Arc evolves.

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Yep dusty Harddrive person here… wooohoooo works like a charme!!! Streaming is an added feature not my main setup, love ARC!!!

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