Roon became unusably slow after the update

[phi4]

Ui features sometimes take 30 seconds to take effect. Starting playback can take a minute. It’s just unusable. I have Rock on i9, wired 1gbps, 350mbps internet, 32gb ram, 20k albums/200k tracks almost all qobuz.

[Mark_Sealey]

@phi4,

@phi4

…tracks almost all qobuz…

Could what you are experiencing be due to the fact that these 20,000 tracks are all on Qobuz?

What happens if you ‘hide’ your Qobuz tracks?

[phi4]

What do you mean?delete the library I spent years to put together?

[Geoff_Coupe]

Nope. As a test, you can simply click the Disable link in > Services > Qobuz > Edit to disable the Qobuz integration temporarily. Afterwards, simply click the Enable link to reconnect to Qobuz

[Geoff_Coupe]

@Mark_Sealey - the link you posted is not valid for Qobuz items; there’s a better way to test whether the issue is being caused by the Qobuz integration.

[phi4]

Ok I can try that. I have only a handful of albums outside Qobuz so I suspect it will be very fast with just a few. My suspicion is that the library size is the main issue, but I can’t reduce it due to this

Roon Slow; Deleted Qobuz Albums, but they get Re-Added

Looks like the $750 I dropped on a NUC i7 with 32GB of RAM isn’t enough to give me decent performance with a library of 250K tracks and 18K albums. Browsing got annoyingly slow (playback remained mostly fine though), so I decided to delete a bunch of this stuff. I spent several hours browsing and deleting a few thousands of these. Now it seems like Roon is re-syncing with Qobuz and is re-adding (at least some of) them slowly but surely. This is such an unbelievable conundrum: I can’t think of a…

[benjamin]

Hi @phi4,

@phi4

200k tracks almost all qobuz.

That is quite an impressive library! Chances are, your performance issues are likely tied to this, especially when considering how often Qobuz changes or updates tracks within their library.

Could you please safely stop Roon Server from running, and then reboot the machine?

After that, let’s see if clearing your Roon Server cache may help:

• Exit out of Roon
• Stop RoonServer via the Web UI
• Find and open your Roon database
• Navigate to RoonServer/Cache
• Move the contents of the /Cache folder elsewhere, like your desktop
• Try restarting Roon and verify if the issue still occurs

We’ll be on standby for your results.

[Mark_Sealey]

@Geoff_Coupe

@Mark_Sealey - the link you posted is not valid for Qobuz items

Of course; thanks for the correction, Geoff!

[phi4]

Thanks for your response. I just started following your instructions, but then suddenly realized Roon is actually as responsive as before and pretty fast! Not sure I have an explanation for this, but I did one thing yesterday. I attempted to reduce my library size (honestly want to do this), so I deleted like 7000 albums. Again it seems like those got added back in the course of several hours (I had experienced this before: Roon Slow; Deleted Qobuz Albums, but they get Re-Added), and now it’s back to 21k albums. Could it be that this sort of re-indexed the database or something and it got fast again as a result?

given that its performance is acceptable at the moment, do you recommend I still follow through your instructions?

[daniel]

Hi @phi4,
If Roon is performing as expected then there’s no need to continue following those steps. I’ll mark this as solved but the thread will remain open for a couple more days in case the problem reemerges.