Roon MQA Core Decoder incorrectly unfolding?

When I play MQA tracks from Tidal on my non MQA DACs with Core Decoder enabled and the device set to no MQA support Roon appears to be doing an unfold beyond the file’s stated resolution.
Example

When I play these same tracks on my DACs with MQA decoding and rendering with the Core decoder disabled they play at the expected resolution.
Ie. the track above shows 48kHz.
This is what I’d expect to see on the non MQA DACs as well.

I’ve just upgraded to Tidal HiFi Plus after having the hifi plan for some time.
When I had the equivalent of Hifi Plus in the past I’d never noticed this behaviour.
Is this the expected behaviour and/or can someone explain what’s going on here?
Thanks.

Edit.
I just tried a track that behaves as expected with a non MQA DAC and Core Decoder on.
As far as I can tell the issue seems to just be with MQA 48kHz being unfolded to 96 kHz by Roon Core Decoder

Now I’m wondering if this is perhaps an issue with Tidal’s metadata etc. on certain tracks :woman_shrugging:

MQA core decoding is always to 2x sample rate (88.2k or 96k), irrespective of the recording Original Recording Frequency (ORF).

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Ok thanks.
I didn’t realize it does this in cases where 2X is beyond ORFS as my hardware MQA DACs don’t behave like this.

There’s no issue here, this is how MQA works. The first unfold (core decoding) is always to 88/96 when the base file is 24/44 or 24/48. When using a DAC to do core decoding it is also doing this but instead of showing this on the display it shows the input sample rate.

When Roon (or Tidal’s own app) does the core decoding a DAC capable of MQA rendering will show ORFS to indicate it is receiving an MQA signal that has already been core decoded. A DAC that doesn’t support rendering will just show 88/96 (the results of the core decoding done upstream).

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They do, but, what you see on the display is not the actual resolution being played but the ORFS.

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Thanks for clarifying that.

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