Roon not streaming to Martin Logan Forte amps via Airplay after update [Ticket In]

What’s happening?

· I'm having trouble with my DAC, speakers, streamer, etc.

What best describes the issue with your audio device?

· Other

Describe the issue

After last update, Roon stopped streaming to my Martin Logan forte amps. This has worked for a couple of years. Jriver and Tidal work fine. Roon sees the amps but music never plays. I have set the Forte amps in Roon to support legacy protocols and they will not work. Is it possible to rollback the current version of Roon that just installed? Believe something got wonky with Airplay support with the latest release.

Describe your network setup

Spectrum internet, amps and roon connected via dedicated switch

Have you tried the AirPlay compatibility setting in the Roon audio device setup (under Advanced settings)?

Geoff - Thx for the reply. I tried this setting as well with no luck. Is there a way to rollback the Roon version?

No, not unless you have saved the previous setup build. Roon Labs don’t support rollbacks. There have been a number of reports of AirPlay issues in this Production build (which weren’t picked up by Early Access customers) so Roon Labs will be investigating what has happened here. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Geoff - Thx for jumping on this. I will switch back to Jriver until Roon releases a new verion

Hi @brucinski,

Thanks for taking the time to write in!

I’m curious - what happens if you add the Martin amp to your Apple Home app first, and then attempt to play audio via airplay from it? Here’s more info on how to do this:

I’ll be on standby for your reply.

Bejamin

Oddly enough, they do not come up in the Home app.

The Forte is an older PlayFI product that supports AirPlay and a variety of other protocols

They still work fine from Apple Devices over wifi, Spotify, Tidal and JRiver

With widespread support for AirPlay, definitely was surprised to have an issue with Roon

I will try updating the PlayFI software on the devices this evening and let you know if that helps

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Benjamin - I updated the Forte amps to all the latest firmware/software. Still no luck with Roon but all other sources work fine.

My apologies @brucinski could you also give your Roon Server a reboot twice, and then let me know if your issue persists?

Thank you!

Benjamin

Rebooted twice, same deal

Roon did not apply any updates

Hi @brucinski,

Thanks for the update.

This is an interesting bit of info. Do they show up now, after you’ve updated the firmware?

To confirm, all your Roon devices are on the same local network subnet, correct?

Lastly, our team is having difficulties enabling diagnostics on your Roon Server, could you please use the directions found here and send over a set of logs to our File Uploader?

Thank you! :pray:

Benjamin - Confirmed, all the devices are on the subnet connected to the same switch as the roon core. I will run a few tests so they are at the top of the log and send over. Thank you for the support!

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Hi @brucinski,

I wanted to check in on this issue and see about your current status, are you still having issues?

We’ll be on standby for your reply. Thanks!

Last I tested, still not working.
When is the next update from Roon coming out?

Hi @brucinski,

There should be an update available in the time since you last posted.

Diagnostics from our servers show your RoonServer instance failing to reach the internet due to network interruption, forced closure in the connection, or timeout from the upstream server. This includes basic RoonServer functions like gathering the time of day, or identifying devices on the network. It’s possible this has exacerbated issues with device discovery and streaming to networked Zones.

Which Roon Remote are you using to connect the Forte amps via Airplay? Additionally, please elaborate on the switch you initially mentioned in your network setup. We’ll move forward from there. Thank you!

Connor

I have tested the following:

  • Extended Pinging from the roon core PC to the Forte amps
  • Extended pings from other devices hardwired and wifi to the roon core
  • Disabled the windows firewall

All of this works fine, i have no packet loss

I have also tested streaming directly from Tidal to the Forte amps for extended periods of time with no issue. Roon sees the Forte amps. If i power them off, they do not appear in roon. If i turn them back on, they reappear.

Streaming from Roon to other devices works fines as well. For example, i have a NAD receiver in my office which i stream music to via Roon. This negotiates as Chromecast. I also have a portable Bose speaker which streams via Airplay that works without issue.

The roon core and the Forte amps are all connected to a Dell switch which has an uplink to the cable modem/wifi router. All network services on the roon core work fine. I can watch videos, surf the web, stream video, etc. without issue.

I use the Roon Remote on my iphone.

Thx
Bruce

Hi @brucinski,
We have a ticket open with our QA team for your right now. In order to test further they need some time to requisition equipment to mirror your setup. This is being worked on now however I cannot give you an exact timeline.

Daniel

If easier, you can troubleshoot on my setup. Let me know how i can assist.

Thank you for the follow up

Hi @brucinski,

As a follow-up test, we’re curious - can you set up your forte devices via airplay to the system output of your Windows machine or iPhone, and then set Roon to play to the system output of the same device?

And just to be thorough in troubleshooting, could you temporarily set up a direct connection from the Forte to your router? Ideally your Roon Server as well, but I understand it may be difficult to do.

Let me know the results!

Benjamin

I tested with Jriver streaming to the Forte’s and everything works fine. I tested this over hardwired and wifi.

Let me know how else i can assist