Roon OS / ROCK stopped recognizing optical drive after about 800 completed rips

Roon Core Machine

Intel NUC7i7BNH NUC Kit - i7-7567U@3.5GHz 8GB Ram 256GB SSD 26840EC

Roon build 258

Description of Issue

I set up the ROCK server 90 days ago. I added a Pioneer Blu-ray Drive BDR-S13U-X BD/DVD/CD Writer with PureRead 4+ Realtime PureRead and M-DISC Support Equipped and it was immediately recognized.

I have read multiple complaints about the reliability of the ROON CD-Ripper which I discounted because my installation worked so well…

It just stopped ripping several days ago and is not being recognized by the Roon OS. I have rebooted, reinstalled, restarted network, unplugged and replugged power and data cables and searched the knowledge base.

I need some help in troubleshooting. I really do not want to start ripping externally and transferring files.

What worked for me was to pull the USB cable from the NUC, then power cycle the NUC, then reconnect the USB cable. That order has worked for me each time the issue came up.

I tried that idea multiple times. I just can’t fathom how it worked seamlessly from the beginning an now has just quit.

The ROCK is obviously not recognizing the CD drive, but nothing physical has been changed.

Has the ripping process worked since the OS build 258 upgrade last week? Maybe something in that build broke it. I haven’t had any new cd’s to rip for a long while.

I’m not sure, but can I go back to the previous build and try?

I don’t know if you can go back from an OS update. Can’t go back from server software update so probably not.

Hopefully @support will get to this post soon and provide some answers or assistance.

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What’s the usual response time? This is a subscription service and I would hope to at least get some troubleshooting tips or a "you’re SOL’ response to a basic question.

Description of Issue

ROCK doesn’t recognize CD drive after update. i had made no physical hardware or network changes and it just stopped ripping and does not show up on the Roon OS User Interface page.

Thanks,

JB

More than 2 days certainly.

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Thanks!

Intel NUC7i7BNH NUC Kit - i7-7567U@3.5GHz 8GB Ram 256GB SSD 26840EC

Roon build 258

2TB USB G-Drive attached to ROCK.

Streams and plays stored tracks as always, just quit ripping and now doesn’t recognize the CD drive.

No error messages, just disappearance of CD-Ripper information on the interface page. It appears to have coincided with the latest upgrade; I haven’t been really paying attention, just allowing them to install whenever I see them.

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Well thanks for that! I was just curious and couldn’t really tell from searching other posts how the process worked.

JB

The process is that they are understaffed with just 4 people and work through the threads as best they can, often too slowly despite best intentions :slight_smile:

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Obvious question, but have you tried the CD with another computer? Maybe a different cable? Eliminate the obvious then move to the more complicated.

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@Jonathan_Best - Yours is the second report of the CD Ripper on Roon OS stopping working in the last few days. Interestingly, Roon OS has also just had an update, so I wondered whether there might be a connection.

I’ve just updated my Roon OS from an early access build to the production build of 258, and my CD Ripper seems to be fine. So it may be coincidence, or there may be some deeper issue that is not affecting everyone.

One thing that you can try is disconnecting the drive, rebooting your ROCK/NUC and then reconnecting it. If that doesn’t help, I’m afraid we’re going to have to wait until @support are able to pull logs from your system to take a closer look.

Can you state the make and model of your CD drive to give them some additional information? Thanks.

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Sorry I missed your reply, but I appreciate it!

CD drive works fine on any other machine. it is a Pioneer BDR-S13U-X which is a really slick unit IMHO!

https://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Computer/Computer+Drives/BDR-S13U-X#overview

I repurchased DB Poweramp and can rip using a laptop; have not figured out how to transfer to the ROCK storage location over the network, but it should be possible. All in all a real PITA compared to the way the ROCK seamlessly ripped my first 800 CD’s.

Thanks again,

JB

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Here is my original post on this (minus gratuitous comment about others having the same issue):

Roon Core Machine

Intel NUC7i7BNH NUC Kit - i7-7567U@3.5GHz 8GB Ram 256GB SSD 26840EC

Roon build 258

Description of Issue

I set up the ROCK server 90 days ago. I added a Pioneer Blu-ray Drive BDR-S13U-X BD/DVD/CD Writer with PureRead 4+ Realtime PureRead and M-DISC Support Equipped and it was immediately recognized.

It just stopped ripping several days ago and is not being recognized by the Roon OS. I have rebooted, reinstalled, restarted network, unplugged and replugged power and data cables and searched the knowledge base.

It is possible, but if you do, it is best to stop your Roon Server using the ROCK’s Web Administration page and then restart it once ripping is completed. Alternatively, rip to a holding area first, and then copy the completed folders and files across to your Roon’s Watched Folders.

The reason is that ripping is a relatively slow process, and the album tracks are built up one by one. If the ripping destination is within a Watched Folder and Roon Server is running, then Roon immediately tries to identify the partial album, and it can easily get confused. You may end up with several partial albums that need to be manually merged.

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Roon Core Machine

Intel NUC7i7BNH NUC Kit - i7-7567U@3.5GHz 8GB Ram 256GB SSD 26840EC

Roon build 258

Description of Issue

I set up the ROCK server 90 days ago. I added a Pioneer Blu-ray Drive BDR-S13U-X BD/DVD/CD Writer and it was immediately recognized and worked rapidly and seamlessly for around 800 CD Rips.

It just stopped ripping several days ago and is not recognized by the Roon OS. I have rebooted, reinstalled, restarted network, unplugged and replugged power and data cables and searched the knowledge base.

The drive works fine on other device USB connections such as Laptop computer.

I asked about this early in May and have had no “official” response. I am not trying to be less than patient, but Roon is a subscription service and the FAQ’s seem to imply a fairly timely reply to questions such as these.

Thanks,

JB

Hey @Jonathan_Best,

You have my extreme apologies for the delay in getting to your thread! I very much appreciate your continued patience here, there is no excuse for the length of time it took to reach your issue.

I was able to pull diagnostics from your ROCK, and I’m seeing some odd and reoccurring errors related to airplay and your core. If possible, could you disable your airplay devices temporarily, and then test out running things on a fresh Roon database? I’ll share the necessary steps below:

  • Create a fresh backup before anything else
  • Stop RoonServer from running in ROCK’s WebUI
  • Navigate to your ROCK’s Database Location
  • Find the folder that says “RoonServer”
  • Rename the “RoonServer” folder to “RoonServer_old”
  • Restart the RoonServer in the WebUI to generate a new Roon database folder
  • On the Roon Remotes, press “Use another Core” and connect to the new database

Before restoring from a backup, please test to see if your drive is recognized. Thanks!

Thanks! I will try these steps tonight.

JB

Can you take another look at my diagnostic data? I followed the recommendation and the ROCK recognized the CD drive and I ripped a couple of cd’s.

I thought that I would try to restore my backup which had a playlist I liked, but the drive was again non-operational.

I redid the recommended procedure actually several times, but never got the drive recognized again.

Appreciate your help!

JB