Finally it happened to me this repeat the same song for 20 times
So annoying
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This has been discussed repeatedly in the past so i thought i put a spreadsheet together to show how a roon radio session eventually starts playing the same albums over and over again.
The seed for this radio session was the artist āPink Floydā. I just let it play for several hours.I have Qobuz as a streaming service and have not limited radio to play my local library only.
The first 41 tracks were all unique albums but from then on it was downhill: only 63 unique albums were played from the remaining 235 tracks. Also around track 41 it basically gives trying to play any new artists which havenāt already been played.
What is the cause of this?
Spreadsheet here: Access via Synology
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Here you go @nathan
Hard to believe [moderated], this has been open now for more than 2 years. Hereās the latest from Roon radio
Yes Virginia. Itās repeating the same track, over and over. Iāve had this happen three times in the last couple of days.
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Same issue
Hi @nathan
Is this still on your radar?
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Yup. No timeline yet but weāve got our eyes on it.
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Iām having the same issues. Not only does Roon Radio repeat the same album far too frequently, it typically repeats the same track within that same album. Maddening.
Shocked that this issue is over two years old without any resolution.
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Hello. Same issue here. Multiple repeats of the same song in ROON Radio within 10-12 songs. I have previously reported. If YouTube, Pandora, or LiveOne had better quality streaming rates I would be using their radio functionality. Iāve also previously submitted ROON feature suggestions and filled out surveys. I have faith ROON will one day soon pleasantly surprise us in the ROON Radio area. Thanks. Barry
Hello to all,
Iāve commented on my challenges with ths here before, but today brings a new one. In the Daily Mix: Peter Gabriel Mix today, thereās a repeat in the base playlist from Roon. This is as it was published, before I played a single track.
The Kate Bush song is the one which is repeated twice. Again - this isnāt based on what Iāve been playing - I have no idea what the mechanism is for creating this playlist. I suspect itās not done by hand, though.
If you look those are two different tracks. While you might think they are the same, they are different data objects.
One track is āRunning up that Hill (A Deal with God)ā on the album āHounds of Loveā with a runtime of 5:03, and, the other is āRunning up that Hill (A Deal with God) (2018 remaster)ā on the album āHounds of Love (2018 remaster)ā with a runtime of 5:00. Note, it is not just a title change, the track timings are different.
I canāt speak to the decisions on how the mixes are created, but, I have no problem with them including different versions of the same song. Just remove the version you donāt want from the queue. Personally, I would move them in the Queue to be next to each other to compare.
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Hello Paul,
The second Kate Bush song isnāt strictly a duplicate itās the same title / paroles, but a remaster many years after the first one.
Pascal
Edit: grilled ā¦
Hereās the list of what the Roon radio just played, same composition of different recordings of āBolero, M81ā 3 times within the past 2 hours; each is 15-minute.
40 minutes after I made the above post, I am being given another dose of Belero, which is still being played.
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I posted a thread How to get the best experience from Roon Radio? with 134 replies back in November 2020 with these same issues of repeating tracks and LOADS of data from me and other users.
Here we are almost 4 years later and this still isnāt fixed? Mind boggling.
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Howās the non-repetitive quality (if the repeats were replaced by a non-repetitive track would they be egregious or is it generally that if it wasnāt repetitive itād be good)?
If I understand your question correctly, I think the answer is that the general performance of track selection in Roon Radio is good (i.e., it plays tracks that āmatchā the parameters of the seed track), but that the repeats occur both too frequently and too close together. As to the irritation factor, speaking only for myself, if Iāve had Roon Radio running for six hours, and a handful of tracks repeated in that time, I might not notice. But the experience is that you frequently see tracks repeated within (say) 10 tracks or so, and sometimes much less (2 is my worst experience.) The repeats also come up frequently when youāre doing the āapprovalsā of future tracks within a Roon Radio session.
Yep thatās the question Iām asking. Thinking about work on radio and itās a different problem if fixing the repetition is enough to move the needle vs if thereās a need for a general overhaul.
Thanks for checking in @nathan. For me, and unlike @Paul_Melde, Radio has significant problems beyond the repeats, unfortunately. I think it got worse a few years ago? Canāt remember exactly when. But at this point, most of the Radio sessions end up requiring my intervention within the first two Radio-added tracks. And I donāt mean I need to skip a song here and there, I mean few or none of the suggestions work well as follow-ons from the seed album/artist/song.
I think the UX/UI implementation is weird too. Like, why is Radio asking me to thumbs-up the next track 20 seconds before the track starts playing? For my use case, Radio is for exploring new-to-me music thatās related to the seed, in which case I will never know ahead of time if the next track is good or not (because Iām not familiar with it). Or alternatively, if Iām not trying to explore new music, the timing and time window to interact with the approval process is both too late and too short, respectively. (If I want a background mix playing, I def donāt want to focus on Roon every 3 mins or so ā¦)