First off I want to thank everyone for help in some other disjointed threads. A little backstory…I have been using Roon for around a year using a Windows computer for the Main Roon Server and connecting to a NUC used as an endpoint and a Rpi with Ropieee as an endpoint. My main windows computer corrupted so now I am starting from scratch trying to setup ROCK on a second NUC I got.
I finally got the image on the NUC and the address to the web UI. What do I do now? I tried the address on another NUC and can’t get in to the Roon UI. Both are connected on ethernet to the same network. I also need to get the codecs, and a backup I have saved on an external hard drive.
No, thats not what i meant. The answers to your questions are present in those two articles, even if you are setting up from scratch.
Your Roon Remote on a phone/tablet (your not saying much about your setup?) will suggest to look for a Core if the previous one isn’t found, and from there you are guided through the setup process (or restore activity, if that’s what you desire).
Point is, any knowledge aquired from sifting through the knowledge base/bank is a good investment. You’ll learn about the subject at hand and the context as well as the Roon concept. Well invested time actually!
Thanks. Ive spent hours reading the guides and watching you tube videos and cant figure it out.
I tried to access remotely on a android phone and a chromebook and it just searches. How do I shutoff the nuc running ROCK? It gives me the http address to connect to but I still cant get on. Im about to give up which sucks because I have a lifetime membership.
I got the backup working and its currently scanning the audio files on my connected usb HD. I’m still not understanding why I setup the other Nuc with ROCK if the other Nuc is running the core.
I want to move one of these NUC’s to another room to run with a DAC and amp/speakers but then I will need to run the External HD there as well and kind of defeats the purpose. I know I’m coming off like an idiot but I’m just not understanding how ROCK integrates.
I don’t know why you didn’t simply use the NUC you already had as your Roon core and purchase a Raspberry Pi 4 to use as a Roon endpoint. Anyway, I think most people prefer to run Roon ROCK on their NUC as the Roon core. The other options would be Roon on Linux or Windows.
I’m not sure what the options are for the NUC as a Roon endpoint. I suppose Roon ROCK would work as a Roon endpoint also. Or, you could use Roon Bridge or Roon with Windows or Linux. A NUC as a Roon endpoint seems like an expensive option to me.
If your music files are located on the external HD, it needs to be connected to your Roon core NUC, not the endpoint NUC.
EDIT: Once you get your NUC Roon core working, you can connect to it with a Roon client device. This would be a cellphone, tablet, or computer running Roon. Once you connect to your new NUC Roon core with a Roon client device, you go to Settings - Audio and set up your Roon endpoints. Make sure everything is running the latest version of Roon and on the same network subnet, such as 192.168.1.xx. etc.
I have a Rpi 3 running as an endpoint in my basement and now I can’t connect. I wanted to use one NUC as an endpoint in my living room and run them off the NUC I setup with ROCK but I am not understanding how it works and how to integrate with the NUC and Rpi.
My main problem is I can’t connect to the IP address given on the NUC screen. See the screenshot above.
After I couldn’t connect to the UI via the IP address given (It’s cutoff in the screenshot) after setting up ROCK I installed Roon on the other NUC and restored a backup. Am I correct in saying that the NUC running ROCK is just a dummy computer? I can’t access any other programs on that NUC. The only way I can even shut it down is by holding down the power button.
I also downloaded fing to try and locate the IP address but for some reason the only devices detected was the NUC I was running it off of (the one I put the core on) and my router.
The concept of Roon is pretty straight forward once you get past a certain threshold. The link Jim provided is VeRY good start, but also a little “management summary”.
Your Roon setup requires at least one of each of these building blocks:
If you install the Roon Application on a laptop, each of these are included in one package.
But in your case you installed a NUC with Roon OS (ROCK) and that function on gives you the Roon Core and Audio devices (built in and connected on HDMI/USB). Your phone provides the third leg of the stool, the Roon Remote.
When you spread your building blocks on more than one device they need to be connected to the very same network.
If you have local files the best (simplest) solution is to attach that drive to the Roon Core, in your case the ROCK device.
I’m not sure if all this confusion comes from the sparse info you provided or if it’s just misunderstanding.
I gather you wanted another NUC with Roon OS to use as an “Audio device” along with an USB attached DAC. Which is fine, but you don’t want/need to use that NUC’s Core, just leave that part out of the equation.
Anyways, when you’re there, your Roon Remote on your phone/tablet connects to your active Core on the ROCK device, and through its interface you can set up Audio devices on your network as well as select music sources such as local files or streaming services.
Please have a look at this though:
This will explain what Roon OS is and what it’s not offering.
It IS a closed system with no user interface other than basic status info off the console (attached screen) and through it’s web based interface.
This is also where tou have the options to power off/roboot the NUC.
You can power it off by giving a quick push on the power button also, it takes a cpuple of seconds for it to shut down though.
You only need to set up one nuc as the Roon core. The other nuc can have rock installed and be used purely as an endpoint if you want as long as you don’t activate it as a core.
For the 2nd NUC there is no need to interact with it at all. You do not connect Roon remote to it. If you want to power it off you can do that by rocks webui or just a short hold and release on the power button will do it.
To connect to Rocks webui on either your core or endpoint just type in \\devicesipaddress ( don’t use its host name \\rock as they are both the same and it will only connect to one and you won’t know which). Rock has very few options as it just doesn’t need any more to run Roon.
To start with just have the one NUC you want to run as the core active and up and running.
You need Roon remote running on your phone, tablet or a spare windows pc or Mac. Configure this to connect to the new Rock core. Click on the help link and then choose select a new core of its not seeing it. It should show up connect to it. If it says you need to deauthorise a previous core do so.
If you can’t connect to it. Verify it’s got a valid network ip address. Plug hdmi in to tv or monitor and check the output of the screen it should show the ip address at the bottom.
Once connected restore your back up to this core, then check its seeing your raspberry pi zone and the core as a zone.
Once this is done for the other NUC running Rock all you do is turn it on and it will show up under Roons Audio settings as an audio device. Select the output that’s connected to the dac and that’s it.
Ensure they all have valid network addresses and your remote is also on the same network and subnet.
I understand now that either the ROCK or the Windows NUC can be used as a core. My problem is after setting up ROCK I can’t Access the UI with the supplied IP address, on top of that I can’t connect to the core I setup on my Windows NUC via remotes(I have disabled the firewall and tried with 2 different remotes) I have an understanding of Roon as I had it running fine for close to 2 years with a Core and 3 endpoints. I am at a loss why I can’t get anything to work now.
Is there a way to wipe ROCK of the NUC I flashed? At this point it’s useless to me and I might as well setup Roon on it. I beleive the whole point of ROCK is the power savings aspect.
What core nuc browser? ROCKS webinterface is accessed by a standard web browser on another device.
like below. You image of ROCKs screen didnt show any ip.
What a mess. Don’t worry about the codecs, that’s the least of it.
Please show the ROCK screen with the IP address it gives you. You know, the screen where you cut off the most relevant part.
Are you saying that, entering that address in a browser, you can’t get to the Web GUI?
If you can get to the Web GUI, then screen print please. If you can get to the Web GUI, then shut down all your other Roons, i.e. the Windows Roon, the endpoint ROCK, and (if you’re using one) the endpoint RPi. Then try to connect to your running ROCK from your Android Remote, as an experiment.
Settle back, take a blow. You seem to be (temporarily) tangled up in your shorts. The fact the ROCK returned an IP address means that it installed successfully.
Thanks everyone. For the record I’m not an idiot, well partly because my network was setup incorrectly. Once I properly connected my router I was easily able to find the UI to configure ROCK. Now on to configure the Codecs and get my Rpi with Ropieee running again.
