Roon stops playing when any endpoint (not in use) disconnects

[Bill_Janssen (Wigwam wool socks now on asymmetrical isolation feet!)]

Hi, Noris. But there is no “Google Cast Group” that I can find! I don’t know where that’s coming from. If you look at the posts in this thread from May 5, you’ll see the discussion of that.

@noris

(1) How often does this issue happen? (2) Are you able to reproduce it with just one mesh node as part of the network? (3) What happens if you try to ungroup the Chromecast zones?

1. Frequently, every couple of hours.
2. I can’t try that, as all three nodes are needed to cover the locations of the various endpoints.
3. As described in the posts from May 5, that trace is from after I ungrouped the Chromecast zones. If you look at that post in full, you’ll see that the cascade of failure starts when Roon “discovered Google Cast Group”, but then failed to connect to it. It keeps trying to connect to this illusory group, and failing. Then Roon seems to start marching through the device map, systematically dropping each endpoint to rebuild the connection map. The disconnect of KDFOWI you point out is just one of them. Did you edit the trace? I see this in the post from May 5:

05/05 05:43:29 Trace: [raatserver] [RaatServer KFDOWI @ 192.168.50.19:9200] lost client connection. Retrying
05/05 05:43:29 Trace: [raatserver] [RaatServer KFDOWI @ 192.168.50.19:9200] connecting (attempt 1)
05/05 05:43:29 Info: [transport] destroyed zone Fire HD tablet was playing? False
05/05 05:43:29 Trace: [zone Fire HD tablet] Suspend
05/05 05:43:29 Info: [zone Fire HD tablet] Canceling Pending Sleep
05/05 05:43:29 Info: [zone Fire HD tablet] Canceling Pending Sleep

It’s not clear to me that the six lines from 05/05 05:43:29 are in strict order, given the vagaries of logging software.

Again, it’s helpful to see this whole chain in context in the post from May 5.

Roon stops playing when any endpoint (not in use) disconnects

So I deleted the House Group last night, to see if @BlackJack’s suggestion was the issue. This morning, I turned it on again, and it stopped after five minutes or so. Similar log file trace. This “Google Cast Group” seems to be automatic, rather than something I formed. Is there some way to get rid of that, too? 05/05 05:42:41 Info: [cast] discovered Google Cast Group 05/05 05:42:41 Error: [cast/client] [Google-Cast-Group-b419c7e3b66a4353b6fd33eb5533e50c._googlecast._tcp.local] Failed conne…

All of that being said, I think turning off Smart Connect helped a lot, and it may have been the proximate cause. I’m going to restore my Pi endpoint, and test for another week with build 970, and see if it’s fixed.

[Rugby (aka Daniel or Big Dan)]

Google cast groups would be found in the Google home app. Also known as speaker groups.

I had a couple that were causing all sorts of issues, IP duplication etc. Just got rid of them in the Google home app and the issue went away.

[Bill_Janssen (Wigwam wool socks now on asymmetrical isolation feet!)]

Yes, I did have one. I deleted it, but some ghost cast group seemed to persist. That’s what the previous post was about.

[CrystalGipsy (Resisting the flow!)]

Reset home completely and set it all up again. I have had to really balls up all my cc endpoints when I made a group. Even after removing it still had issues. Cleared home and started again and all was well after that.

[noris]

Hello @Bill_Janssen ,

@Bill_Janssen

All of that being said, I think turning off Smart Connect helped a lot, and it may have been the proximate cause

I’m glad to hear that this change helped!

@CrystalGipsy

Reset home completely and set it all up again.

Did you have a chance to try to reset Google Home app?

@Bill_Janssen

you’ll see that the cascade of failure starts when Roon “discovered Google Cast Group”, but then failed to connect to it. It keeps trying to connect to this illusory group, and failing

If the Google Home reset doesn’t change anything, I wonder if this group could somehow be cached in your Roon database? It might be worth a try to temporarily set up a fresh Roon database and see if this Google Group re-appears in the logs.

[Bill_Janssen (Wigwam wool socks now on asymmetrical isolation feet!)]

I’ve been playing with my setup, trying to stop playback, and have been unsuccessful. I think I’ll declare this one fixed. If it recurs, I’ll open a new Support thread.