Roon v Audirvana

Here’s my comment that was replied to

Well if I’m not mistaken. Rock is a heavily customized Linux distribution. With all the unnecessary stuff being left out.

My Roon Server is running on the latest version of Linux Mint and it runs rock solid.

A minimal version of Linux is embedded into ROCK. All I had to do was take an OS-less NUC and load ROCK from a USB onto said NUC. No operating system on my part was installed. EZ-PZ! Audirvana requires a form of OS, pre-established by user, to INSTALL TO.

Because Audirvana itself isn’t an OS. It’s just an application like Microsoft Word or Google Chrome. It needs an OS to work.

Rock has been designed by Roon themselves to be a host for the Roon Server. And it is also the only thing it can do.

So unless Antoine and Damian come up with their own "A-OS’’ Audirvana OS. This won’t change.

No, ROCK already includes a Linux kernel. I doesn’t require „a Linux“ in the same way as Ubuntu doesn’t.

It’s a rather pointless discussion of semantics, but:

Roon OS is the operating system and is a custom OS build based on the Linux kernel and, I suppose, some userland tools based on GNU most likely (like nearly all other Linux distributions).

Roon Server is the userland process providing Roon functionality.

ROCK is like a specialized Linux distribution that combines Roon OS with Roon Server.

Ok, interesting. My office computer is always on, so the issue of having it go to sleep or similar never crossed my mind.

To me, the must-have features are:
1- Ability to see all albums, local and streaming, in ONE place (which Audirvana Studio does, but Audirvana 3.5 does not)
2- Album groupings (which no version of Audirvana does)

The fact that there’s a disinterest in ‘2’ blows my mind.

You did install the OS when you did that, even if it didn’t feel like it. (I installed Windows many times by flashing a USB stick and booting off of it.) But we don’t need to go into details. It is technically incorrect to say that ROCK is OS-free so I corrected the record.

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Roon Server is running here on my 2014 Mac Mini. It is placed underneath my TV in the living room. On top of my Hi-Fi cabinet. And it’s always running and silent too.

Every few weeks I’ll run updates for Linux itself and give it a fresh reboot.

Even though Roon is more expensive compared to AS. I find it to be superior to Audirvana.

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Update from email response I received this a.m.

Audirvana NAS version is imminent. If this is implemented well I’ll be happy.

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The remote app had a major facelift to make the remote almost the same functionality as the desktop

It still won’t play on the device it’s loaded on, it’s purely a remote

Well it’s been well over a year since my last usage of Audirvana. Good to hear they are still working on it.

That is not my experience but suggest we just agree to disagree.

Well, it requires a machine all for itself. A machine and an operating system, rock being Linux packaged for use on an appliance.

Update :

Roon is no more usable for me, even with 64gb of ram, it uses 160%-250% of the CPU of my Mac making it unusable because the fan noise is too loud.
I couldn’t find a more power friendly version to download (Roon Server without the graphic interface), so I have to say goodbye to Roon after several years of membership.

Not surprising. A 2012 Mac Mini probably doesn’t meet the current Roon minimum requirements.

  1. This is not normal (unless there is a serious misbalance of library vs hardware) and I’d recommend you open a case in Support (I haven’t found any, so just sayin’)
  2. If you install the Roon package and don’t start the GUI, only the Roon Server runs, so a separate server installation package would do nothing for this issue.
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I use it with a MacBook Pro 16 i9, 64gb…

I run a Roon server on Roon Nucleus (Rev B), Apple Mac Mini (late 2014), and Dell XPS 15 (Windows 11, 32gb) with zero problems from any of them. I also have an Audirvana 3.5 license I no longer use. I tried Audirvana Studio for 2 years and dropped it.

I’ve never had a heavier CPU load like 15% on my old Roon Server. Which ran on a 2.6 GHz dual core i5 2014 Mac Mini with 8 gb of RAM. My current server runs on my M1 MacBook Pro also with 8 gb of RAM. And the CPU load there is only a few percent at most. In both cases I have never heard their fan kick in. Actually the only sound that I can hear is the soft whir coming from the connected USB hard drive holding my music library.

My guess is that there is something really weird going on with your system.

Many users have reported Roons cpu usage on one core max out during its metadata service updates, support are investigating it. None of us have anything funny going on and all have very different hardware, network and library makeup. Given there are lots of database issues within Roon itself at the moment of which they are also investigating I would not discount the issue being related to these problems.

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