I hate to use the word never, but this will never happen…
Spotify are all about their UI - they eliminated all the custom UI options that were present before (like with AVRs), and moved to ‘Spotify Connect’. They want their UI used, across all devices.
Roon are all about their UI… and like Spotify, they won’t budge on this.
Spotify’s customer count continues to grow (and the total count is enormous). So they’re in no rush or need of a major UI chage… their hundreds of millions of users use that UI.
The two worlds will never meet… in my unqualified opinion.
Even if Spotify followed Amazon Music HD adding ‘lossless’ content, it still will never happen.
Spotify want one continuous UI experience across all devices.
Just like Roon.
Spotify + Roon will never happen, and Apple Music + Roon will never happen for the same reasons.
For now, everybody should hassle Amazon Music HD. At least there’s still a non-zero probability of that happening. For now… since they allow some 3rd party integration at the moment.
Had Spotify integration with Naim, before their Tidal integration, and it was dreadfully bad sound quality, so no don’t need it, don’t want it.
Roon development time would be better spend on other features IMO.
Also Naim’s direct Tidal integration doesn’t sound as good as Tidal with Roon.
Hey Simon nice to meet you on the Roon forum
Are you sure of this? This seems not logical as Tidal Connect should send the same flow than the one sent via Roon. Maybe SQ is different in your setup because you use Roon for PEQ and other stuff improving the sound?
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Yes, sure.
Not sure Naim’s integration uses Tidal Connect.
The integration with Roon to the NDS through the SonoreUPnP Bridge presents WAV on the Ethernet input for all Tidal content, whereas the native Naim Tidal integration is compressed FLAC.
Naim have acknowledged that unprocessed WAV reduces the level of processing in the Naim streamer with less noise.
Btw with my same Roon endpoints, I’m able to use Spotify and Apple Music.
My Roon endpoints are also HQPlayer ‘endpoints’.
HQPlayer (Embedded Linux version) features an “Input” feature.
So I use Spotify and Apple Music on iOS and play to the Airport Express (via Airplay 2), which feeds HQPlayer.
HQPlayer handles all my DSP playing Spotify and Apple Music (including digital room correction…).
It sounds complicated and maybe the setup is a little bit complicated… but when it’s all setup, you just press play in Spotify and Apple Music (or whatever streaming service) and enjoy the music.