Spotify or Spotify HiFi in Roon [spotify will not allow this]

Soundizz is a good bet, I know a lot of people love the recommendations from spotify and that tool lets you set up syncs. So you can take spotifys playlists (release radar, discover weekly etc) and pull them into Tidal or Qobuz automatically.

Also handy for the wealth of playlists that spotify has, the electronic ID playlists are great, this tool lets me have them in Tidal.

Very interesting discussion :slight_smile: Just to add another personal experience after using spotify for over 2 years alongslide apple music and Roon (with local files only).
Sound quality on single end point + DSP + happiness of local library: Roon hands down
Spotify does not sound bad to my ears (even being lossy) but I find it does not let me listen to what I want. Playlist management is basically impossible. I hit shuffle and that means spotify will repeat about 30% of my tracks. Interface includes so many options which also change in the way they are presented. I fiddle with it non stop and it becomes annoying.
Apple music offers control with smart playlists and I never have to worry that it hides away 50% of my library like spotify does.

And you can do this with a free Spotify account.

Yup, still works

A horse’s head in the bed can go a long way.

Tried and tested :joy:

It is not clear to me from their streaming plans, but it seems that Spotify streams at CD quality:

Somehow I doubt that given their app still has all the same quality settings as before. That looks like the output of a converted stream as it’s saying PCM. Nobody streams raw PCM it would be Flac or oggflac in Spotifies case.

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Wanted to bring up an idea I had of a “poor man’s integration with Spotify” that might go some distance to what people want. If Roon treated it like a radio station where only the user’s pre-existing playlists were available, but no structured data about songs / etc was available (you couldn’t search the Spotify catalog, for instance) it might get us some ways towards what people are looking for. It would inevitably still be frustrating that we couldn’t go further, but I wonder if this would be helpful - and doesn’t seem Philosophically different from the integration of radio stations.

Anyways, I wrote the idea up, and I’d welcome thoughts and votes on that feature request at the thread below:

I have the Elac Discovery, with Roon essential. I like it a lot with tidal and Qobuz.
Can Elac or Roon please also add a Spotify to it?

Greetings Ralph.

It won’t happen. Spotify won’t waste time and resources.

Welcome to the community Ralph, hope you enjoy Roon.

Unfortunately this has been covered in incredible amount of detail over and over again in this forum going back several years, Spotify will not provide the information needed via API to permit an integration with Roon. This is the main feature request thread, but if you search there are many other discussions, plus several on Apple Music and Amazon music.

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Elac is responsible for Roon Essentials, not Roon, so you need to plead your case with them. Also, this is a Roon forum, not a Roon Essentials forum. Sorry…

Hi I know (and the Roon COO has also explained in lengths) that Spotify will not be on Roon’s radar, in the near future. How about a feature converting/integrating a Spotify playlist into Roon/Tidal? This would at least really help and could easy many user’s reluctance of fully switching to Roon…

This product will do this.

Any chance Roon will support Spotify

Lot’s of posts about this.
Spotify not going to allow 3rd party integration, and especially not to the level Roon require.
Short answer is probably not

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Also, given that Roon users are almost exclusively of a more “audiophile” persuasion and Spotify is yet to release its forever promised, yet still undelivered HiFi tier, Roon would be wasting it’s time and money on any integration efforts.

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See here.

@moderators may merge this thread.

Topic merged.
@Eric_Estes, there’s a lot of discussion on in this topic to catch-up on.