Nope. You’re the one arguing that people like this have a learned opinion. I’m the one contending they’re, at best, know-nothing idiots, and at worst, crooks.
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Just like your first comment: your second comment has nothing to do with my post.
Please read my post carefully.
Unfortunately, people seem to be reading it one way. Would you consider re-writing it so that we could understand what you really meant?
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My post doesn’t say anything about “trust”, “Napster”, “learned opinion” etc.
Which part of my post is unclear?
Ah! Let me explain. First off, the reference to Napster is from the video, not in a response to your post, so don’t worry about that. Secondly, different people reference the same things using different words. I believe that the posts in response to your post – the posts that you were objecting to – were understanding your post to be about trust and learned opinion. If you don’t want that, perhaps there’s some way to re-write your post to make what you mean clearer to those response-posters. Not sure about that; just a thought.
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The part where, in responding to the question of whether the claim made by the authors of the video this thread is about, you post in support of people spreading the idiocy I quoted… so I guess that “all of your post” is extremely unclear.
I mean, maybe you just didn’t watch the video before giving your opinion on the claim, which might explain a thing or two, but that really isn’t my problem to fix.
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Just on a side note. The guy in the video Jay, Has a fantastic channel with crazy Audio gear. I think you guys should check his channel out to make sense of why he talks like that.
Jay’s Audio lab on YouTube.
They play Roon out of one box. Thats like driving a Porsche on automatic transmission and saying it lacks pickup. Roon recommends separating the endpoint. If you haven’t tried that, there’s nothing to compare.
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Because if he doesn’t, it’ll make it harder for him to get loaner gear ?
All sarcasm set aside, this video should be setting off alarm bells at RoonLabs with regards to dealer education.
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BS to sell a fancy, over-priced streamer. Roon is bit-perfect.
There was no mention of any of the settings when used to compare - was there any DSP set in Roon? Volume levelling, headroom management, or anything else to account for the allegedly apparent difference?
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You’re not getting it, I think. The Taiko is quiet. Because there’s no noisy graphics. No noisy data – Roon’s got all that data. But the Taiko is so quiet you can hear yourself think! Because they got rid of the data.
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But what about all the noisy audio DATA ??? Then it would be SILENT…
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But what about when you separate the Roon core and a Roon endpoint? Then surely all that “data” and noise from the server is left behind?
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The retailer’s cut of fancy hardware is going to be 20-25% of the retail cost. And the Taiko server costs something like $30,000. So for every one of these they sell, they get 6 or 7 thousand bucks. Nice work if you can bring yourself to do it!
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Look at the body language of the bloke in the white shorts. Hand over mouth to stop himself blurting out “I’ll just say what you want to hear until you give me your money”.
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The more I think about it, the more I feel that this video is totally useless, and maybe deliberately deceptive.
It’s totally possible that the Taiko software sounds better than Roon coming from the same box. And it could be all that data. But that’s because Roon’s suggested architecture is NOT to do what they just did.
So it’s like substituting ground chuck for kobe beef and then saying the recipe sucks.
I also found the pocket pinball that guy was playing to be a little distracting.
That, or there’s a dealer peddling retracted ■■.
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People need to chill out about flagging this stuff.
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Yeah. Being thin-skinned about contrary opinions isn’t helpful.
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