Unable to filter live albums by specific year using search [Ticket In]

[ChinaRider]

What’s happening?

· Something else

How can we help?

· None of the above

Other options

· Other

Describe the issue

New Roon user: I want to use dates such as 1972 as search terms to filter my live album lists: Roon seems to treat this as a search for the individual digits in any position, not as a specific block of text to be matched. How can I filter on “1972”? Focus is not appropriate in this case. Every live album has the date in the title and this would be the simplest way to filter to what I want.

Describe your network setup

Roon core running on Windows 11 laptop, Naim NDX2 streamer/DAC

[bearFNF]

Looks like this is Roon trying to “suggest” close matches to be helpful…
One way I can think of to do this would be to use tags, which, depending on the number of albums, could be tedious. (note you can select multiple albums to add to a tag at the same time)

I guess another way would be to use playlists? Also could be tedious.

[ChinaRider]

Thanks. I was hoping that there would perhaps be a search setting of some sort to allow numbers as key words. I tried “1972” but got no result.

It’s strange though. Every media player app i have used from ipods, through Foobar to Naim has enabled this. I almost wonder if it’s an oversight. I would have thought that dates were rather obvious keywords for filtering a list of albums

I could create tags, use focus, whatever but this is for a spontaneous quick filter to cut down a long list. Something I’ve been doing for years

[Suedkiez (Just a fellow user like you)]

@bearFNF

Looks like this is Roon trying to “suggest” close matches to be helpful…

In think it’s because the filter matches on any combination of numbers that occur in the title, not on the literal string. Note how every result contains the numbers 1, 9, 7, and 2.

[Rugby (aka Daniel or Big Dan)]

Mentioned years ago…

Hyphens can act funky in the Album filter section in conjunction with numbers

Filtering on 1961 nets me any response that has 1,9,6,1 in the hyphened number sequence. As though the hyphen confers a contains instead of an exact match.

[ChinaRider]

Thanks for these two responses which are both pretty accurate. Im left wondering if this behaviour is a feature (but to what purpose?) or a bug.

I thought that Focus would maybe help but even that doesn’t offer a date filter in an artists discography.

Is there any mechanism at all in Roon to filter a list of albums by year?

[Suedkiez (Just a fellow user like you)]

Roon has fields for release date and original release date, which are used for sorting and in Focus, but they are separate from album titles.

There’s also a recording date field, which is displayed on the album page, but I’m not sure if it’s used anywhere else, like Focus, etc.

[tripleCrotchet (Tony)]

Its clunky and probably not what you are looking for but if you have set the dates in metadata or you can get them out of your titles with something like mp3tag then you can filter on date in Focus. From there you can combine with smart playlists or bookmarks.

[ChinaRider]

I just tried this but from where I’m sitting, Focus doesn’t actually offer the ability to pick a year when viewing an artists discography

[Rugby (aka Daniel or Big Dan)]

You try adding a Year Tag?

[connor]

Hi @ChinaRider,

Thank you for your post.

The search team is aware of this issue and we have an open ticket to implement better behavior with year-based search queries.

See here for context:

How do I search by year in album title?

Content you’re reporting an issue with All albums. Have you made any edits to this content in Roon? No Is the album identified in Roon? Some yes some no. Is this content from local files, TIDAL, or Qobuz? Local and Qobuz Screenshot of import settings Description of the issue I listen to an artist that is primarily live recordings via local files and Qobuz. The local files are unidentified since there is no match. For both local and Qobuz the album title has the date of the perfo…

We will keep this thread open to inform you when the ticket has merged and a fix is in the Early Access section.

[ChinaRider]

Thanks, that was a great answer, I had kind of guessed that the problem would be solved today but great to hear that it’s already on your radar. I think that will be a game changer for some users (esp me).

[daniel]

Hi @ChinaRider,
We wanted to keep you informed that the feature to enhance year-based search queries in Roon has not been released yet. Improving this functionality is on our radar, and we’re actively working toward it as part of our ongoing updates.

Thank you for your continued patience, and please don’t hesitate to reach out if you have any other questions or feedback.

[ChinaRider]

Thanks for letting me know. It strikes me that the simplest solution would be a toggle switch in settings to enable basic search where all characters are treated the same, whether they are letters or numbers. Matching ‘1972’ would be the same as matching a word such as ‘frog’ or any other text string.

My #0.02

[benjamin]

Hey @ChinaRider,

Great thinking with your response above! I wanted to note that we have a dedicated space on community, our Feature Suggestions category where users share any feature requests. I’d suggest sharing your thoughts over there to ensure others see the idea!

Thanks for your patience in the meantime while we work on addressing this issue.