Use of my genre's or Roon's?

I have about 20 Classical Music Genres in my Library, e.g. Chamber 20th C, Chamber Romantic, Chamber Classical, Chamber Baroque, Concerto 20th C, Concerto Romantic, etc.

Seems i have a choice to keep these genres or allow Roon to manage genres. I have two/three questions i hope you can help with:

  1. What are the advantages of allowing Roon to manage all of my Genres under their Classical Genre?
  2. What is happening if i choose to allow Roon to manage under their predefined Classical Genre and i choose to map my 20 some Classical Genres to Roon’s one Classical Genre…and conversely, what is happening if i don’t do that?

Thanks!

Your genres and Roon’s can be mixed together in any way you like. Roon’s genres have some structure out of the box (meaning Bop is filled under Jazz, Concerto is under Classical, and so on). The idea here is to show something that’s comprehensive and comprehensible when you first use Roon, and then let you go in whatever direction you want.

In Settings you can turn on both your tag genres and Roon’s genres, and this is set per install – if others in your household just want the basics, and you want nothing to do with them, you can set this on your individual devices.

All genres have editable “parent genres” meaning if you consider Concerto to be a top level genre (as opposed to being filed under Classical) you can edit it that way. Similarly, if your tag genres don’t exist in Roon’s hierarchy, you can leave them top level, or file them as subgenres however you please.

This is really a matter of preference. For me personally, I use the genre browser when I don’t know what I want to listen to, and being able to drill down from a finite number of top level genres makes things easier for me. It also makes the whole screen usable for my wife, who likes to explore whats in the collection, and may know she wants to play some jazz even if she doesn’t necessarily know every subgenre.

I think in most cases, you’ll want to go to the genre, click the little pencil, and set a parent genre – this would allow you see Classical at the top level, but with your 20 subgenres underneath it.

Mapping is a little counter-intuitive in that it’s really for genres you don’t want shown in your library. For example, in my file tags, I noticed more than 10 variations on R&B, none of which were particularly useful (General R&B, really?). I mapped these all to R&B, and now even if those albums aren’t identified by Roon, they all show up properly in my collection, and I can shuffle them all by going to the R&B page and hitting play.

Let me know if that answers your question @hshrader!

Any edit on a file updates the metadata of the file or just the local Roon database?

Any edit in Roon is stored in Roon db not in the files Metadata.

Mike and Rugby - many thanks.

Mike - one point of clarification,

I understand why you’ve mapped the R&B variations to Roon R&B genre, but what do you mean that they are not identified by Roon yet show up properly? What would have happened if you didn’t map them to R&B. Would they be genreless?

I was not aware i could manage genre’s by parent/child. Sounds great and will give it a try!

Lastly, if i have Classical as a parent genre with several children genres, i can hit play on the Parent would it randomly play from the parent genre and include all sub genres? And if so, what/how does it play - by work, album or track?

Our metadata service has to get a hit if we’re going to retrieve any genres beyond what’s in the file tags.

Without mapping, albums not found in our database would only be part of General R&B (for example), and wouldn’t be part of any R&B focuses or Radio sessions.

Thanks for the info. So, there’s no way i can edit the metadata on the files if i want to?

Not through Roon. There are several good stand alone editors depending on your OS.

Ok, thanks again. I use dbpoweramp for my rips and converting and iTunes for metadata editing. Do you recommend any editor for mac OS X?

@ Mike (or others in the know) – Working on managing Genres and it is looking good.

One questions/issues: Seems i have a parent genres of Avantgarde and Avant-Garde. The first is empty. How can i delete it?

Ack!! Please make is easier to select Genre’s by providing more information shown on the screen at a time. There are so many options but it is really hard to see it all and one ends up doing a TON of scrolling! Perhaps color coding for different levels in the tree would help too.