Which HQP Filter are you using? [2015-2023]

Yes it can, HID compliant remotes work with HQPlayer… That is just unrelated to Roon, so this forum is probably not right place for discussion about that.

This is quite unusual thing to do. Usually one would use endpoint always the same way… In fact my endpoint firmware doesn’t even support anything else than NAA…

In any case, as Roon documentation also says, you shouldn’t have same endpoint configured in both Roon and HQPlayer. Otherwise you will likely end up with problems.

Upgrading hardware is not related to this, unless the hardware change is hiding differences between Roon and HQPlayer DSP algorithms… Of course if you don’t notice difference, then there is little point in using HQPlayer with Roon.

With HQPlayer Embedded, you can change HQPlayer filters from iPad using Safari. Not from the same UI, but still relatively simple. Many things are technically doable, but Roon doesn’t implement them at the moment. One is these filter settings. Another is need to configure IP address of HQPlayer, instead Roon could auto-discover HQPlayer instances on the network.

But on the other hand, some of the functionality just falls outside of Roon’s scope in general so one cannot expect such the be accessible through Roon GUI overall.

I stand corrected about the IR remote (although, since I only use HQP with Roon, I’m not sure it would matter to me).

The Rendu web-based controls include an “app switcher”. I’m sure many users do set it to one app and forget it. In the past I sometimes switched between HQP and RR (typically, to get higher sampling rates in HQP during “serious” listening sessions vs. multi-room grouping with RR during casual listening sessions, while cooking etc.)

If the Rendus (or HQP, or Roon) aren’t intended to support frequent switching, that’s good to know. I’ve been moving in that direction anyway (by using my DAC/Streamer instead of the ultraRendu when I want a “Roon Ready” endpoint).

Anyway … to get back to HQP filters, right now I have HQP set to poly-sinc-ext2 / AMSDM7 512+fs / 22579200 (DSD 512). Generally I prefer DSD to PCM.

I’ve sold my mscaler as HQP gives me better sound and more flexibility in choosing sound signatures.

I run HQP on a nuc7i3 from a remote roon core. I connect my hugo tt or hugo2 with usb.

I was considering changing the nuc for an antipodes ex. Is this a better platform for HQP. I assume the usb connection would be totl. Does anyone have any thoughts on this upgrade?

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Thanks. That clears up my confusion.

What would be the best filter to use if you want a wide and good soundstage, but also want to tame the high-end a little bit? Any suggestion @jussi_laako ?

I never had such problem, so I have not put so much effort into that area. I’m quite sensitive to how the high sound like. I’m particularly allergic to “digital” sounding highs that are harsh or hissy/messy, like the early CD players used to be. But this depends on the loudspeakers too, and that’s why I don’t like ones with metal dome tweeter.

I’ve received some questions around this area, so maybe that is something to look into for a new filter design. I have an idea…

But depending on your speakers, meanwhile you could try poly-sinc-mqa-lp and poly-sinc-short-lp.

Hi @jussi_laako

Are there any filters/settings that the UP Squared Gateway cannot handle at PCM768KHZ?

Only for PCM music content.

Running HQPlayer OS and Auto Rate Family enabled, I couldn’t quickly find anything that wouldn’t work.

Without auto rate, fixed output to 768k from 44.1k using poly-sinc-xtr doesn’t work.

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And RME ADI-2 DAC supports both 705k & 768k?

All good, I see both PCM 705.1 and 768kHz are supported, in the manual

Yes it does, tried both. Getting a new DAC?:slight_smile:
Btw, make sure you get the updated version with AK4493 chip

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Looking at the new version ADI-2 DAC and then pairing with Benchmark HPA4 - for HQP upsampling to DSD256.

But can start with ADI-2’s built-in headamp with HQP upsampling to PCM768 kHZ.

Hey all. For those of you trying to run the newer EC dithers in DSD 256 make sure you have “Multicore” box grayed out. This mean it will put it in auto. Also have the “Cuda core offload” box grayed out too if you have an NVIDIA gpu. When i had these two boxes check marked aka “enabled” i was getting stuttering on EC DSD 256. After i switched them to the grayed out box setting I was buttery smooth on most of the filters except closed form 16m.

Im running i9 9900k overclocked , GTX 2070 Super, and 32 GB DDR4 at 3200 mhz as reference. Computer is used as hqplayer workhorse. Sonore Ultrarendu is my NAA and roonbridge and my sonictransporter is my Roon Core. I control Roon through my iphone Roon app and through my computer.

Cheers,

Jonathan

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I use that same PC configuration as described by yourself.
Roon Core resides on the same PC.
My NAA is a Raspberry 4 though.
Here that 16m filter runs without problems. It actually needs (much) less computer power than the EC dithers in DSD 256, which I prefer over any pcm filters anyway.

Silly question…once I have bought the hqplayer licence,…where do I add the key?

Under help, register and open the registry file and voila you are set.

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Thanks, but it must different on your set up as I dont see that at all. HELP is just a help section, nothing to open.

Cheers though

I’m using poly-sinc-lp now, up-sampling to 768 and using the NLS15 shaper. So far it seems perfect. Nice roomy soundstage and feels fluid, and a little less aggressive at higher frequencies so seems to match my a-little-to-forward system very well.

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could someone explain what the difference between LP and MP is, in terms of sound?

for upsampling to DSD, i have tried both poly-sinc-xtr-lp-2s and poly-sinc-xtr-mp-2s and i’m not sure i can hear the difference. either i don’t know what i’m supposed to “listen out for” or my ears just can’t discern the difference…