DSP (Muse) can be very helpful, especially if you want to apply some EQ. However, it does not require a Titan. I use EQ to tone down the high frequencies with my Pioneer HPM-60 speakers.
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Sure, that’s fine. But I think you understand my general conundrum here. Even exploring a small corner of DSP in Roon looks like this:
Roon → MUSE → Convolution → room correction → internet.
I encourage people to remember that this is a discussion forum that is not reserved to experts only. All competency and knowledge levels are present. Responses that resemble “RTFM” are a little too minimalist for my tastes. In this case, I think Roon’s introductory articles to DSP could use a facelift, in the interests of expanding their market!
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That’s the nature of learning about something new
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Is the Titan is worth it for anyone’s needs? The $3999 USD price tag and complete lack of listed specifications concerns myself. Perhaps someone can clarify what makes it so expensive.
People willing to pay as much. A server system is something nobody should ever see. They are meant to live in data centers, closets, garages, dungeons, underwater tubes, doomsday bunkers, anywhere that can’t be called living spaces.
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I love my Titan and it fit my exact use case perfectly. I’m very glad I upgraded from my Nucleus Plus.
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What exactly is your use case for a Titan?
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Hello,
Given what you write and apply, I don’t think you need a “Titan”. He won’t give them anything/not much. Maybe the optics and easier portmanship. Even if you push your current hardware to its limits (which I don’t think you will), you can consider what kind of solution, at what price, it should be. Play with upsampling and EQ, you may not need anything else.
I can also understand that it is complicated and time-consuming to read up on the necessary basic knowledge about the in-depth functions. Especially since you had no points of contact there before. Listen to music and enjoy, if it sounds good to you leave it alone.
For the expert it is simple, for the layman it is a wall.
Very clear!
Thanks.
Not just inaudible - effectively non-existant.
64bit floating point has a 53 bit mantissa (52 explicit and 1 implicit). This means that, in the conversion back to 32/24/16 bits (as required by your DAC), the least significant 21/29/37 bits respectively of the mantisssa get dropped.
Thus this approach effectively results in the closest you can get to a mathematically perfect operation (unless the rounding and conditioning errors implicit in the DSP operations performed result in errors of more than 21 bits in the 53 bit mantissa of the 64 bit floating point. If you have errors accumulating to this degree, then you are probably doing something wrong.
I wanted a physically attractive, silent, powerful server with a short vertical form factor.
I wasn’t ready to jump to Antipodes, Taiko, or Pink Faun price strata. Titan fit perfectly with the trade-in credit.
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Same here, add to that low maintenance.
And since I still have the first version of the Nucleus, bought when it came out, I think it’s a good time to renew it.
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Also add: appliance level support & full warranty coverage. 
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Well personally, I find 24 to 64 bit depth conversions and other DSP calculations such as Laplace and Fourier transforms to be completely straight forward and understandable.
Thank you for your patience with a n00b! This has been a wonderful and informative thread. For the moment I will hold off on upgrading to a Titan until I have proven worthy.
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Am I correct in that there are no published specifications for it?
You don’t need to understand any of that to use it. Just search for the Housecurve threads and it is no more complicated than making a measurement with an iPhone/iPad and saving a file. Back on topic; you don’t need a Titan to do any of that (probably).
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There are lots of specs out there. The CPU is roughly equivalent to an Intel Xeon 4210 in Passmark total/Multi Thread and Single Thread scores, while being over 4x more thermally and electrically efficient.
It’s powerful enough that the specs honestly don’t matter. It’s significantly faster and more responsive than my Core i7 N+ RevA, as an example.
But, if one is shopping on specs alone, there’s hardly a pre-built computer at any price that would satisfy that metric unless one is going Mac M1/2/3 (where they can’t build).
I’m certainly not here to convince anybody to buy a Titan. But I am very confident that it’s incredibly misunderstood based on several comments I’ve seen here since its launch.
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It’s no big secret that it’s based on the ASUS NUC 13 Pro Barebone i3 1315U
You might be surprised it’s based on an i3 class processor, but this is a very competent CPU, and performance wise it performs beautifully.
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It does not appear that way? Xeon’s have never been the way to go for Roon usage, and this seem to verify that, by the Titan/i3 1315U doubled single thread score?
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/3524vs5300/Intel-Xeon-Silver-4210-vs-Intel-i3-1315U
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You’re actually correct and I made a rather poor generalization. The Titan absolutely demolishes the Xeon 4210 for single thread score.
And, it’s actually a larger disparity due to the TDP of the Xeon vs the 1315U; I am not aware of a passive cooling solution that will support full core clock on a Xeon like that for any length of time, whereas the Titan has ample thermal headroom even when running heavy DSP or DSD conversion (in my experience).
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