Add Radio Paradise as a "music service"

+1 for me, this would cement my lifetime membership.

Roon doesn’t want lifetime members, so not really an enticement for incorporating Radio Paradise.

OK I’ll bite, why doesn’t roon want lifetime members?

It’s not that they don’t want lifetime members. They just want the steady income stream from annual memberships. They don’t want to get several years down the road and their income stream dries up.

Roon has told all who want to listen that lifetime memberships will, at some point in the future, be eliminated.

The price has already been increased from $500 tp $700 in an attempt to dissuade people from buying lifetime.

Point is, if you are thinking about lifetime, better not wait for Radio Paradise inclusion.

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So do many companies but I have a feeling the consumer is really sick of the subscription model.

Lifetime is still available…for now.

Not this one.

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Well I was getting metadata for a brief time - I guess it was early June-ish - but lost it after a week or two. I once again have to run the 320 stream to an endpoint I am not listening to to see the data.

Are some folks still seeing metadata with flac? If yes, any ideas?

I can use the RP metadata FLAC stream. There are multiple streams in the Live Radio entry. Try different ones and you’ll find the metadata one. Reception can be glitchy. I understand RP may have a more limited server running the metadata stream so it can vary with demand.

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The RP servers in the Netherlands appear to have lost the metadata from the metadata streams recently, and dropouts are also happening.

With the help of @BrianW, I added the IP address of the RP server in the UK, and that is still working.

http://66.206.24.99:8022/p/mellow-flacm

INdeed RP seems to struggle to stabilise theyr Flac metadata service.
If you have a Linux machine at home (a Raspeberry PI under DietPi would do it) and don’t mind tinkering you can build a rock solid metadata RP FLAC stream at home, merging the stable non-metadata RP FLAC stream with metadata retrieved through RP’s API.

It works beautifully.

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Also @Boris_Schaedler has added RP metadata to his extension for Android it gives artwork and metadata no issues. Why can’t Roon copy this method it works well.

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I love @Boris_Schaedler’s it’roXs extension and had been thinking this too.

Still, Roon’s live radio does one very nice thing: when it works it seeks to match the RP metadata to a track + album + artist available to you for streaming. (I am not certain if this can be identified local content or only from Tidal/Qobuz).

Not saying that alternative ways of extracting or obtaining live/radio metadata would preclude this! But for anything that has to be captured outside the stream, I imagine it would have to be a standardized approach that works across stations to make it interesting for Roon? RP is a biggy, so who knows…

The UK streams seem to playing today and with metadata. Maybe they sorted it. Be nice to have covers though.

Well something’s definitely changed. Been streaming RP all day with metadata not one dropout. I wonder if they are using better CDN or something?

Yes. NL and UK servers appear to be the same now (and hosted in NL by Worldstream).

@Geoff_Coupe if you go back to standard link do you see any change?

There are two links for the Mellow Mix that are marked as flacm - but only the 8022/s/mellow-flacm appears to be carrying metadata.

Haven’t heard any dropouts thus far.

Is that still the case Geoff? I can’t reproduce that.

Consistently missing on one of the streams and consistently present on the other: